Sounds like exact quandary that the emerging DID spec (Decentralized Identifiers) [https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/] is hoping to solve. I.e. you can submit your proof of age to an attestation service (in this case, perhaps the australian government itself) and receive an anonymous DID from which you can issue proofs of age without revealing other aspects of your identity.
Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
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Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
#62This dovetails nicely with Google unilaterally deciding to age-restrict things like presidential candidate campaigns. https://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/la-video-d-eric-zemmour-restr...
Imo all ads should be age restricted
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, so what’s the real reason the government wants this?
The ~only reason gov't ever does anything is because they think it looks good to voters. And any given voter doesn't have "wants" or "beliefs", just violent mood swings and social performance. This isn't really even a bug of government's! Government action is very often valuable and necessary. But the incentive structure is such that modeling the gov't as a somewhat-rational entity with well-formed desires is usually…
You are not the voter anymore. Watch the second half of GCP Greys. Rules for Rules on youtube, or read the book its based on if you want to understand. The video is a really good summary though.
Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
#64Since EU already has this, it's been very few videos on yt where this has been asked. I just avoid them.
I've noticed the restriction on some YouTube video as well. With one account of mine I'm able to see them though, even if I don't remember giving my credit card details or ID. I created this account a long time ago so I might be wrong. I think they asked for my phone number for verification instead.
Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
#65Age verification sounds like an application of zero-knowledge proofs
They'll want to collect the data for themselves which is why we don't already see this for things like KYC.
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#66Although the title is correct, it's worth noting that Google is not doing this because it thinks it's fun to require verification. The Australian government is requiring google to take this action.
That's interesting. Is the Australian government requiring me (superkuh) to take action to follow their absurd laws for my dot com website too? I definitely have Australian users.
I guess what I'm asking is if this is something Google is doing pro-actively to cover their asses after a general law was passed, or if the Australian government has explicitly contacted Google (alphabet) about this?
Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
#67Sounds like exact quandary that the emerging DID spec (Decentralized Identifiers) [ https://www.w3.org/TR/did-core/ ] is hoping to solve. I.e. you can submit your proof of age to an attestation service (in this case, perhaps the australian government itself) and receive an anonymous DID from which you can issue proofs of age without revealing other aspects of your identity.
Would that also work the other way around? Ie would it mean the Australian government wouldn’t know anything other than you wanting to prove your age to somebody?
Otherwise it seems a terrible idea.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
>"If our systems are unable to establish that a viewer is above the age of 18, we will request that they provide a valid ID or credit card to verify their age.” I don't think Google is complaining too much. Especially if it gives them an excuse to collect credit card data (reducing a significant amount of friction when they sell YouTube premium / google drive subscriptions).
Google could have required people to enter credit card details to download apps at all on their phones, following the precedent Apple had already set. That hasn't happened.
iOS does not require CC info to download free apps. It's only needed to pay for paid apps (same as Android).
Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
#69This dovetails nicely with Google unilaterally deciding to age-restrict things like presidential candidate campaigns. https://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/la-video-d-eric-zemmour-restr...
While it is unilateral, it appears that the triggering effect for the age restriction is the content of the video, not the fact that a politician put it up.
Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content
#70For YouTube, that has been the case for a while in Germany. Certain videos (usually semi-pornographic, I think I only encountered it for black metal music videos) will require age verification. And that is despite my Google account being 18 years old…