That's why decentralized chat protocols like matrix are needed
Telegram is about to be blocked here in Brazil
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Re: Telegram is about to be blocked here in Brazil
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a fine for anyone that tries to bypass this, a reasonable R$ 100,000.00 per day, and other punishments.
Nobody will know you're using tor.
I mean technically, I believe your ISP and network provider are able to know that you are using Tor.
At least that's how that Harvard kid was "caught" [0]
Re: Telegram is about to be blocked here in Brazil
#23But isn't telegram a Russian messenger?
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#24But isn't telegram a Russian messenger?
Not really. Its founder was born in Russia and has a Russian name though but he is living abroad and he failed to comply multiple times with the Kremlin's or its agents' requests and as a result he was ousted/resigned from his CEO position at VK.
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#26That's why decentralized chat protocols like matrix are needed
Complexity is a form of backdoor centralization.
There is still only one implementation of the Matrix homeserver protocol. Just one.
But hey, at least we have built-in VOIP and color unicode emojiis. You couldn't possibly have a successor to IRC without features like those. Glad the Matrix folks have their priorities straight.
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#27That's why decentralized chat protocols like matrix are needed
Complexity is a form of backdoor centralization. There is still only one implementation of the Matrix homeserver protocol. Just one. But hey, at least we have built-in VOIP and color unicode emojiis. You couldn't possibly have a successor to IRC without features like those . Glad the Matrix folks have their priorities straight.
Your facts are wrong; there are hundreds of dendrite (go) and conduit (rust) Matrix instances live on the network these days, as well as instances of the original synapse Python implementation. Admittedly dendrite and conduit are beta, but then so was synapse until 2020.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody will know you're using tor.
I mean technically, I believe your ISP and network provider are able to know that you are using Tor. At least that's how that Harvard kid was "caught" [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6924905
The Harvard kid didn't obfuscate.
Re: Telegram is about to be blocked here in Brazil
#29The world is gradually sliding into an authoritarian dystopia and nobody is willing to do anything about it. What a time to be alive.
Honestly I don't really see the dystopia here. Telegram refused to comply with legal court orders, and as a result the app can't operate in the country. Honestly to me this is less dystopian than having unaccountable business wholesale ignore the laws of a nation state, which Telegram seems to do just about anywhere. Not sure since when literally following the law qualified as authoritarianism.
You don't see anything dystopian about systematically preventing Brazilians from talking to each other because of "misinformation"? They appear to be trying to wipe Bolsonaro out, judging from the contents of the article.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't enjoy giving a-holes a platform but it's way too easy to just point at somebody, call them names that rile up the public, and de-platform them if they are inconvenient for you. Freedom of speech is important, even if it enables a-holes as a side effect. Furthermore, this seems like a classic case of political warfare where a company is dragged into the politicians' squabbles and is forced to pick a side. It's…
>Freedom of speech is important, even if it enables a-holes as a side effect many things are important and all of them have in common that they find their limits within the bounds of the law. Brazil has a different take on freedom of speech than the US. You can argue about the details of this particular case of course and whether it's politized or not, but it isn't authoritarian at all to demand that tat a tech compa…
Brazil's take is wrong, just like Russia's and China's is.
Whether something is dystopian or not is unrelated to whether it's legal. Dystopia is always legal, that's the point of it.