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I did, too. All I can tell you is that when I have Brave running on an M1 with four tabs open, it's consistently using 240MB of memory. When I fire up Firefox Developer Edition with the same tabs open, it starts at 660MB and quickly balloons up to 1.05GB of memory usage.
How are the devtools in Brave?
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My experience also. I’ve slowly edged away from Firefox and have primarily been using Brave and Safari for the last 6mos or so. Brave just feels snappier, and it’s close enough to Chrome that most work required websites aren’t broken.
Ive made the opposite switch, many sites were broken in brave (eg google docs, google sheets) and aren’t in firefox
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The thousands of people a year murdered by local police (many of whom are unarmed and innocent) would probably disagree.
you’re only off by whatever number of thousands over a thousand you are implying here.
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> Suppose you want to do something anonymously. > 1. Download installer from Mozilla from your home network - Mozilla now has your home IP and installer ID. Compile from source?
Of course the "attack" is easy to avoid. But you first have to know about it. Mozilla should not be planting such landmines.
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I can. I'd still rather use Firefox than Chrome or Edge when it comes to privacy. "Firefox is dead ... Time to bury the putrid, rotting corpse" is ridiculously dramatic.
What about Vivaldi or Brave?
I figure at this point in history, browsers are so complex (25M+LOC) and important that it no longer makes sense to not use native browsers. There’s many advantages to them.
For me, daily usage of Edge and keeping Tor Browser installed has been great. I rarely use Tor, usually just when trying to get around IP bans or limitations, but I keep it installed out of principle. I wouldn’t rely on that small team to support a daily browser either.
Zero telemetry is the only way to go for a modern browser with a sense of decency for the web and the users. I invite everyone on a Mac to try and support Orion browser - zero telemetry by default.
This is embarrassing, by the way:
> So forget user agent/screen resolution/OS masking and other marketing talk used by browsers - this was maybe a thing 15 years ago, if ever. This does not protect you against sophisticated fingerprinters on the web.
> The only efficient protection against fingerprinting is what Orion is doing - preventing fingerprinter from running in the first place. Orion is the only browser on the market that comes with full first party and third party ad and tracking script blocker, built in by default, making sure invasive fingerprinters never run on the page.
They seem to be trying to gather a lot of telemetry to measure how they can boost popularity of Firefox. I wonder did they tried to measure how the measurement itself influences popularity? Social measurements are like quantum ones, they change reality. There was a funny story of a Hawthorn Experiment[1], which tried to find ways to boost productivity but at the end managed to state just that the very attempt to cond…
> They seem to be trying to gather a lot of telemetry to measure how they can boost popularity of Firefox. This might sound like a crazy idea, but they could always try listening to users! Everytime I get annoyed by something in Firefox and try to find a fix for it, I find a lot of people with the same issue across HN, Reddit, the Mozilla forums, etc. There is rarely any sign that a decision maker from Mozilla cares…
> Our sacred cow was excellent US-based phone support. That is quite expensive. If there were bugs in our product, users would call in, and our call center costs would increase because we'd have to have more people working. So every week in our team meeting, we would look at summaries of calls, and take on engineering work to address the most common class of problems. That let us scale up the business and still provide friendly and competent phone support, because we were reducing the problems that people called in about.
> Because we had that "sacred cow", every obscure bug that we spent months fixing not only made the product better and were intellectually stimulating to finally figure out, but had a concrete impact on how costly it was to deliver the service.
> What most companies would do here to reduce costs is simple. Don't fix DERP bugs, just charge for it. Don't fix "black screen" bugs, just hide the phone number on your website so people can't figure out to call.