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> Suppose you want to do something anonymously. > 1. Download installer from Mozilla from your home network - Mozilla now has your home IP and installer ID. Compile from source?
Of course the "attack" is easy to avoid. But you first have to know about it. Mozilla should not be planting such landmines.
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This isn't a landmine in any normal threat model. The average person is concerned with identity theft and perhaps their local law enforcement, not the full weight of domestic or foreign intelligence services.
The average person fears the domestic intelligence service and is not as concerned with local police.
Suppose you want to do something anonymously. 1. Download installer from Mozilla from your home network - Mozilla now has your home IP and installer ID. 2. Transfer it via USB key to a secure, anonymous computer - one not linked to you, on a network not associated with you, such as public WiFi. 3. Install Firefox using that installer on said computer. It transmits the installer ID to Mozilla, which matches the one gi…
You know I let a lot of important things in Firefox slide (like the poor Webspeech API support, bad text-to-speech, some missing extensions and a lot of other things) but I still make it a habit to use it over Chrome (and recommend it to everybody) as somewhere in my mind it feels like a small revolt against the giant evil Google corp. But stuff like this and other shenanigans in the past (like Mr.robot, misuse of fu…
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I can't believe the apologists commenting on this. Firefox put a lot of effort into tracking download to install behavior. Maybe this is the only violation you know about. There's no reason to continue to believe in Mozilla's good faith. They've been captured, and are 90% dependent on Google revenue. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28954390 Firefox is dead. It's time to move past denial. It does…
What're the alternatives to Firefox? The only ones that come to mind are Opera and Brave, and Brave had some controversy too.
> This will allow us to track which installs result from which downloads to determine the answers to questions like, "Why do we see so many installs per day, but not that many downloads per day?" What value does Mozilla see in being able to do that?
All it does is separate out two numbers: downloads and installs.
How does that tell you why someone is installing a specific download on a specific day?
Is the current Mozilla CEO a plant by Google with the goal of driving Mozilla into the ground as much as possible? I don't understand how they can keep fucking up their business so badly.
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I can't believe the apologists commenting on this. Firefox put a lot of effort into tracking download to install behavior. Maybe this is the only violation you know about. There's no reason to continue to believe in Mozilla's good faith. They've been captured, and are 90% dependent on Google revenue. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28954390 Firefox is dead. It's time to move past denial. It does…
What're the alternatives to Firefox? The only ones that come to mind are Opera and Brave, and Brave had some controversy too.
Edit: BTW what happens if I download Firefox from site like Softpedia.All the people who downloaded Firefox from this website have same identifier?
Is the current Mozilla CEO a plant by Google with the goal of driving Mozilla into the ground as much as possible? I don't understand how they can keep fucking up their business so badly.
"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies."
How is this not a blatant violation of EU GDPR? This is involuntary non informed tracking.
My understanding of the GDPR is that it doesn't apply if the analytics are fully anonymized, and only partially applies if the analytics are pseudonymous[1]. It's exceedingly likely that one of these cases applies, since the ID in question is tied to a single Mozilla installation , not individual user or even browser profile. [1]: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/data-protection/guidance-staff-student...
wtf Mozilla, why are you making me stop using you?
How is it making you stop using it? Like, people can’t see the difference between “telemetry” done by supermarkets by counting an approximate number of visitors vs the full-on knowing your childhood best-friends’ secret crush on you. There is eons of difference between the two.