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Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Stallman has discussed this years ago: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freed... The most pertinent part is: > A condition against torture would not work, because enforcement of any free software license is done through the state. A state that wants to carry out torture will ignore the license. When victims of US torture try suing the US government, courts dismiss the cases on the grounds that t…

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Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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As much as I hate what Russia is doing, I’d hate even more for software to come under political purviews. If an author of a library chooses to apply political condition(however justified they may be), then the software is simply not free by definition. I’m neither Russian nor Ukrainian. I cannot turn a blind eye simply because it doesn’t apply to me. What if another library that I use apply a license that says “those…

> I’d hate even more for software to come under political purviews.

Yes, but has not that ship sailed already?

I go to great efforts to keep my "feed" purely technically focused, but in the past ~2 years this has become basically impossible.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

#73

I hate this presidence things like these set. I would hate code being split into left/right, and that's kinda the presidence set here As much as I think the war is wrong, having it seep into other things which are "non-political", is incredibly annoying.

Anton’s project, Anton’s rules. Simple. You don’t get to choose what license gets applied to his thousands of hours of work just because you want to live in a vacuum, when the reality has his own family under siege by a foreign army.

Furthermore, if you’re going to make grandiose statements about what may or may not become precedent, it would behoove you to learn the word you’re trying to use first.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

#74

Hi. I am Anton Babenko, maintainer (ukrainian by heart) here. I have updated the wording in README to state the facts about Russia (facts with links to wikipedia) - https://github.com/terraform-aws-modules/terraform-aws-eks#a... It was never my intention to make changes in a license in any way. It would be just wrong to drop 5+ years of my life working on all terraform-aws-modules and betray everyone who have been pa…

Thank you for wading into the lion's den. You're a braver soul than most

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

#75

Ugh. Lookit: it sucks to be forced to say anything at all , whether you agree with it or not. One thing I can say for certain is that my employer (and probably yours ) is only into virtue signalling when it's 100% safe, everyone else is doing it and it has zero negative repercussions. I don't get to decide what my employer's stance is on licenses. I guarantee you that many people will end up moving away from these mo…

I have updated the wording in README - https://github.com/terraform-aws-modules/terraform-aws-eks#a... . The project was and will be under the same Apache 2 license. You can continue using it as nothing is happening in Ukraine. I will never stop you or anyone else.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

#76
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is non-political. You do not exist in a vacuum.

I just wanna code without thinking about the stuff happening in the world. Political stuff has its spaces, why does it have to infest everything else

No one is stopping you. If you're engaging with others, and you're using their shit, then you're participating in a thing that's much larger than yourself.

Don't want that? Write your own stuff from scratch and don't think about what's happening in the world.

You're currently demanding the world change to play to your whims. That's not how this works.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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post #73

I hate this presidence things like these set. I would hate code being split into left/right, and that's kinda the presidence set here As much as I think the war is wrong, having it seep into other things which are "non-political", is incredibly annoying.

Anton’s project, Anton’s rules. Simple. You don’t get to choose what license gets applied to his thousands of hours of work just because you want to live in a vacuum, when the reality has his own family under siege by a foreign army. Furthermore, if you’re going to make grandiose statements about what may or may not become precedent, it would behoove you to learn the word you’re trying to use first.

Well i mean, he doesn't get to claim its apache when its litterally not.

Furthermore, its an internet comment, i'm not gonna double check my spelling

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

#78
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wanna code without thinking about the stuff happening in the world. Political stuff has its spaces, why does it have to infest everything else

No one is stopping you. If you're engaging with others, and you're using their shit, then you're participating in a thing that's much larger than yourself. Don't want that? Write your own stuff from scratch and don't think about what's happening in the world. You're currently demanding the world change to play to your whims. That's not how this works.

I'm just putting out my opinion, I say the exact same thing when politics get brought up at the dinner table, it has its place, right now i just want to have dinner.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

#79
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have updated the wording in README - https://github.com/terraform-aws-modules/terraform-aws-vpc#a... . The project was and will be under the same Apache 2 license.

By definition, it's not under the Apache 2 license if you add extra terms, even if those terms only apply to some people.

That's why I call it "Additional information for ..." and links to wikipedia (not yet blocked in those countries, I guess). It is the same Apache2 license.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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post #3

edited: I see the addition now.

How is adding "Additional terms of use" not a license change? That's not just a "statement of support".

I have updated the wording in README - https://github.com/terraform-aws-modules/terraform-aws-eks#a... . The project was and will be under the same Apache 2 license. You can continue using it as nothing is happening in Ukraine. I will never stop you or anyone else.
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