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Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by Proven »

igetspam wrote: post #12

It sucks to have to agree with someone that you don't fundamentally agree with but I think the author of the PR is correct. This is a modification of the Apache license and while I appreciate and support their stance, it does seem to mean that the license is non compliant. I support anyone's desire to protest things (no matter which side I'm on) but you can't just make up your own rules.

You fundamentally agree with the person who opened the issue on the issue of license, that's the only thing that matters here.

He is right, the changed license is discriminatory.

Older commits can be used freely, so not a big deal for a while at least and by then someone can fork the code.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by oauea »

igetspam wrote: post #12

It sucks to have to agree with someone that you don't fundamentally agree with but I think the author of the PR is correct. This is a modification of the Apache license and while I appreciate and support their stance, it does seem to mean that the license is non compliant. I support anyone's desire to protest things (no matter which side I'm on) but you can't just make up your own rules.

> but you can't just make up your own rules

Sure you can. Your project, your rules.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by glogla »

black_puppydog wrote: post #14

I'm not sure what the title here should be, but this one seems incomplete Edit: maybe this? > Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks restricts license for Russian/Belarussian users

The title is technically true, but it makes a strong effort to paint it as a bad thing.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by nigma1337 »

toxik wrote: post #27
nigma1337 wrote: post #24

I hate this presidence things like these set. I would hate code being split into left/right, and that's kinda the presidence set here As much as I think the war is wrong, having it seep into other things which are "non-political", is incredibly annoying.

Nothing is non-political. You do not exist in a vacuum.

I just wanna code without thinking about the stuff happening in the world. Political stuff has its spaces, why does it have to infest everything else

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by nigma1337 »

glogla wrote: post #30
toxik wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing is non-political. You do not exist in a vacuum.

Yes. "I don't want politics in X" (software, video games, etc) mean "I support the status quo" which is by itself a political position - and often a privileged one.

But i dont support the status quo lol.

I just dont want to have someones political opinion shoved down my throat wherever i go.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by gzer0 »

crmd wrote: post #11

I’m ethically torn here. On one hand, I ask myself what I would have done if I worked at IBM in the 1930s[0] On the other hand, as an LGBT person, I firmly believe that maximal freedom of speech protects vulnerable people from erasure. What this means for free software is a tough question. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_World_War_II

> "maximal freedom of speech protects vulnerable people from erasure"

It's very easy to say things like this without fully comprehending all of the implications. Here's an example: Google restricted the usage of its own product, Google Maps, in an effort to halt the killing of Ukrainians by Russian armed forces, who were using Google Maps to launch their operations. This directly contradicts your claim.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by nigma1337 »

oauea wrote: post #32
igetspam wrote: post #12

It sucks to have to agree with someone that you don't fundamentally agree with but I think the author of the PR is correct. This is a modification of the Apache license and while I appreciate and support their stance, it does seem to mean that the license is non compliant. I support anyone's desire to protest things (no matter which side I'm on) but you can't just make up your own rules.

> but you can't just make up your own rules Sure you can. Your project, your rules.

Well its not his license.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by jacobr1 »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #16
reacharavindh wrote: post #10

As much as I hate what Russia is doing, I’d hate even more for software to come under political purviews. If an author of a library chooses to apply political condition(however justified they may be), then the software is simply not free by definition. I’m neither Russian nor Ukrainian. I cannot turn a blind eye simply because it doesn’t apply to me. What if another library that I use apply a license that says “those…

The reasonable answer is also a political fork. The author is entitled to use whatever license they want, and the community is entitled to a fork if it doesn't violate the previous license. That's all there is to it. the author doesn't owe the community anything, and the community, as long as they respect the terms of the previous license, is free to fork the project and get rid of the new license. In general, these…

Although one thing the author does owe the community is clarity in the license. The PR in question changed the named of the license from "Apache 2.0" to "Modified Apache." If you change the terms of a well known license, like Apache or MIT or whatever, for whatever reason, you should not mislead others into thinking it is an unmodified licensed.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by charcircuit »

joshmanders wrote: post #22
black_puppydog wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’d hate even more for software to come under political purviews. Really? Making software free is just about as political as it gets. Restricting that freedom, as happens here, is equally political. I guess you just don't this special kind of politics in your software.

Right? Like the whole open source movement was a massive political thing... Open source by definition is political.

I think you are confusing it with the free software movement. Their idea of proprietary software being "evil" is why they don't get as much support as compared to open source.

Re: Terraform-AWS-modules/Terraform-AWS-eks transitions to non-free license

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Post by seneca »

toxik wrote: post #27
nigma1337 wrote: post #24

I hate this presidence things like these set. I would hate code being split into left/right, and that's kinda the presidence set here As much as I think the war is wrong, having it seep into other things which are "non-political", is incredibly annoying.

Nothing is non-political. You do not exist in a vacuum.

Funny how the people who say this always seem to have the same political ideology, which they want to loudly push.
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