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In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Re: In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Post by gumby »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #52
robbiep wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats the typical way to handle a tension pneumo, which is slightly different but highly emergent. It's unlikely the case described was a tension pneumo because of the time period, but it very well could have developed that way, and regardless the treatment should be as useful - however one of the benefits of a needle decompression is that, because the lung has compressed so significantly, you don't have to be too co…

„emergent“ means the prevalence is increasing? Why?

From your name and punctuation I assume you’re German.

Thats actually not the use here but that meaning is common. “Emerge” is simply Frenchified Latin for ausgehen.

In this case however it appears to be medical (perhaps ER) slang for “rapidly becoming an emergency”

Re: In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Post by Ovah »

epmaybe wrote: post #54
sfe22 wrote: post #48

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How did you get it. Was it a major accident?

No, these things just happen for a variety of reasons. Smoking/vaping puts you at higher risk. There's probably other risk factors too.

The most common category is "primary spontaneous". Predominantly young (85% <40yo), healthy males (6 times more common). Smoking contributes, and I believe being tall and skinny does so as well.

Re: In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Post by thomasjudge »

mbubb wrote: post #45
omegant wrote: post #24

The European rules for emergency medical kit (I guess FAA rules are very similar) also automatic defibrilators are increasingly being included in these kits: CONTENT OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL KITS (a) Emergency medical kits should be equipped with appropriate and sufficient medications and instrumentation. However, these kits should be supplemented by the operator according to the characteristics of the operation (scope o…

expected an AED - wonder if inflight vibration makes it unusable

In the US all commercial airlines are required to carry AEDs and train staff to use them. So the internet tells me

Re: In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Post by gavinray »

marcodiego wrote: post #47
mbubb wrote: post #42

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> 3 spontaneous pneumathoraces… I remember from EMT school the informal advice that spontaneous pneumo is a predisposition for certain body types and something as trivial as a burp or hiccups can cause. Tall and thin body type. But this is anecdotal- is there an underlying cause in your case?

> spontaneous pneumo is a predisposition for certain body types Some medics said exactly this for me. This body type is called "franzino" in Brazil and is exactly how I was as a teenager. Strangely my pneumathoraces were not on the same side. On the left side it happened twice which was fixed with two clamps and a pleurodesis. On the right side it occurred only once but considering my predisposition, there's no reaso…

Jesus christ mate, human biology is fucked.

Imagine walking around knowing your lungs could pop for essentially no good reason, at any moment.

Re: In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Post by whoisburbansky »

refurb wrote: post #35
mcv wrote: post #25

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Maybe not if the surgery was successful. As long as the condition is stable, it might not matter where they land. Might as well land close to wherever she needs to be, instead of in a completely different country.

How is surgery “successful” when they used a coat hanger? Can you imagine the infection risk? And sure, fly another 1-2 hr to get to the final destination, but they flew 8+ hours. It kinda makes no sense.

They mention in passing that cognac was used to disinfect things. Not foolproof, but not exactly a sepsis inducing nightmare either.

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Post by mbubb »

thomasjudge wrote: post #63
mbubb wrote: post #45

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expected an AED - wonder if inflight vibration makes it unusable

In the US all commercial airlines are required to carry AEDs and train staff to use them. So the internet tells me

NJ EMT here and the guidance we are given is to not run AED while driving as the vibrations can make the analyzer misread. There are probably different types of AEDs to account for this

Re: In-flight surgery with a coat-hanger and silverware

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Post by praptak »

marcodiego wrote: post #55
sfe22 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you get it. Was it a major accident?

Spontaneously! My lung simply ruptured. I was lying in my bed when it happened the first time.

Wait, there were more times it happened to you?
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