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Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by likeabbas »

hindsightbias wrote: post #299
likeabbas wrote: post #288

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> Let me repeat that: research, development and test. >What an incredible coincidence. Alien trolls or Occam’s razor? The ODNI specifically stated in the 144 cases of UAP they were not able to identify that exactly none of them were from testing US Special Access Programs technology. This is in the official report http://dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-As... >“Christopher Mellon served as deputy as…

“The ODNI specifically stated in the 144 cases of UAP they were not able to identify that exactly none of them were from testing US Special Access Programs technology. This is in the official report” I’m going to be extremely generous and assume you have actually not read the report you state says exactly none of them were SAPs. What your source actually says: “USG or Industry Developmental Programs: Some UAP observa…

Apologies. I couldn’t remember the wording. I did read the report but it was last June. With that said, I have watched more recent interviews with Lue Elizondo where he states that the UAPs being shown are not the result of SAPs, and that he would know as he had access to the SAPs since it was his job to investigate the occurrences.

His interview with Terry Virts, former astronaut, was pretty eye opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YSrVhCS-rc

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by mlindner »

It's amazing how many imbeciles on hacker news actually believe that we actually saw UFOs. There is simply no evidence for them. (The sheer idea of a "saucer" for a UFO is straight out of fiction even, it's also conveniently exactly the same shape as a smudge on literally anything. A smeared spec of mud becomes a UFO saucer.)

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by greedo »

chrisco255 wrote: post #272
greedo wrote: post #267

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Weapons on their own are dumb, stupid devices. Weapons in a system can be dangerous when deployed appropriately. For ASBM or hypersonic missiles, there are several steps in a successful engagement: 1. Detect the carrier. Sounds easy but they can move at 30+ knots, and can be quite difficult to detect when they want to hide. 2. Provide targeting data. This is needs to be much more accurate than just detecting that a c…

Russia has been rather subdued in the Ukraine invasion, but they have won 95%+ of every military engagement in Ukraine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_engagements... They have taken nearly the entire Black Sea coastline and most major cities east of the Dnieper River. That entire eastern part of Ukraine will collapse imminently under Russian advances. And meanwhile none of the aforementioned weapons…

The aforementioned weapons systems only exist in labs if that. Hypersonics are expensive and Russia is poor. Look at their GDP.

And you do realize that satellites don't "lock" onto anything. They orbit around the earth. Geosynchronous orbits aren't used by RORSATs. Spyplanes? What spy planes? Russian maritime surveillance aircraft have limited range, (as do the PLANs) and can't see an infinite distance. Google the earth's curvature and you'll be able to find out how radar is limited.

Russia's military is a Potemkin village. Has been for decades if not longer. The only thing they have that's a threat is their nuclear weapons, and I'm even starting to wonder how reliable those are.

You keep talking about how dangerous Poseidon is. But Status-6 hasn't even been deployed, and probably never will. Why not talk about how dangerous Tsar Bomba is? And it's estimated speed is closer to 60mph.

I grew up when the Soviets were all 10 feet tall, with super T-80 tanks, with SS-20 missiles, nuclear powered cruisers and all sorts of scary stuff. Most of it turned out to be junk or too expensive for the USSR to afford. Same with Russia.

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Post by mlindner »

jmyeet wrote: post #27

I honestly don’t know what to make of these observations other than I’m utterly convinced they’re not alien, super high tech or break the laws of physics (eg inertia). There was no alien crash in Roswell. I also file believe any government is competent enough for the claimed cover up and associated psyops. What I do find interesting is the overlap between people who buy into various conspiracy theories and people who…

Atheists have religious beliefs too, they just believe in different things. Atheists are no better than any other humans. There is nothing special about an atheist. They are just as susceptible as any other human. I agree with your post other than this portion.

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Post by greedo »

chrisco255 wrote: post #272
greedo wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weapons on their own are dumb, stupid devices. Weapons in a system can be dangerous when deployed appropriately. For ASBM or hypersonic missiles, there are several steps in a successful engagement: 1. Detect the carrier. Sounds easy but they can move at 30+ knots, and can be quite difficult to detect when they want to hide. 2. Provide targeting data. This is needs to be much more accurate than just detecting that a c…

Russia has been rather subdued in the Ukraine invasion, but they have won 95%+ of every military engagement in Ukraine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_engagements... They have taken nearly the entire Black Sea coastline and most major cities east of the Dnieper River. That entire eastern part of Ukraine will collapse imminently under Russian advances. And meanwhile none of the aforementioned weapons…

Oh and I forgot to address your ridiculous comment about winning every engagement in the Ukraine. Tell that to the 7K dead Russians. How about the 400+ destroyed MBTs, and 4K IFVs? If you think that Russia is winning this conflict currently, you've been listening to Tucker Carlson too much. Russia lost this war on D Day, when they failed to establish an air bridge at Hostomel when the VDV got smoked.

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Post by astrange »

VyperCard wrote: post #164
chrisco255 wrote: post #104

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Yes, Russia has the largest nuclear stockpile in the world, they absolutely work and it's unwise to base your opinions on their nuclear and tactical capabilities based on their slow advance into Ukraine. The Poseidon is a 100 megaton nuclear torpedo. It doesn't need to get anywhere near a carrier group to knock out the entire group. It is twice as powerful as the largest nuke ever detonated (at 57megatons) and a Russ…

If it exists. If it works. If if it

Only one of them needs to work to be good enough.

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Post by astrange »

nabla9 wrote: post #54
bostonsre wrote: post #48

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Have any of them made any money from this? What is the hustle?

Oh yes. To the Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences (media & entertainment company) makes this stuff up and sells it. https://tothestars.media/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company)

> According to SEC filings, as of October 2018 only $1 million of those shares had been sold and the company had a $37.4 million deficit, largely from a stock incentive plan for its employees, prompting Ars Technica and Vice to question its financial sustainability.[4][5]

I happened to read the SEC filings when they were doing this and am certain it's fine and Vice reporters just don't know how startup finances work.

What I did notice is that the perfectly normal looking and very detailed Form C didn't say the company owned any IP from alien spaceships or was going to acquire it. Their website definitely suggested it though, so if you're lying you could sue for securities fraud.

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Post by astrange »

TMWNN wrote: post #189
nabla9 wrote: post #39

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That "four different pilots" stuff has not been confirmed as far as I know. All people involved in these stories are hustlers, including that one ex-pilot who peddles the story. You must look at every statement they make separately. They give one fact that can be verified and then they tie lies or unverified stuff on that. btw. Luis Elizondo is has not been charge of any UFO stuff. https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01…

>Luis Elizondo is has not been charge of any UFO stuff. The late Senator Harry Reid of Nevada disagreed with you. https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/article/luis-elizondo... >

I did think it was amusing that everyone said the government is covering up UFOs, but it turns out you can just ask Harry Reid about them and he didn't even put it in the classified budget.

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by astrange »

bostonsre wrote: post #206
kingofpandora wrote: post #135

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> Navy's top pilots Relative to what? Other pilots who fly the same aircraft? All fighter jet pilots in the Navy? All pilots of all types of navy aircraft?

A squadron commander doesn't get into that position by being incompetent. Fighter jets are incredibly complex and demanding and there are lots of different aircraft to pilot in the navy.

Who are the Navy's bottom pilots?

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Post by nl »

colordrops wrote: post #86
stouset wrote: post #60

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What other evidence is this inconsistent with?

RADAR and visual confirmation.

I don't believe there was visual confirmation of this incident.

There was a separate incident where there was a visual sighting and people are conflating the two.

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