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Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by gcthomas »

oblib wrote: post #38

Interesting how so many are willing to accept "camera flare" as a concrete explanation. One thing that bothers me about this explanation is we know those pilots had a lot of experience with those systems so I'd expect they'd know "camera flare" when they saw it on those displays. But it's clear from the audio they did not recognize it as that. And there was more than one pilot seeing it, and from different angles. I'…

I'd be wary of taking a pilot's subjective impressions as superior to a technical analysis of the optical system.

Pilots may be competent users of these systems, but they are not experts at anything beyond flying their missions, in general. Experience as users is not the same as expertise under unusual conditions.

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by jklinger410 »

jmyeet wrote: post #27

I honestly don’t know what to make of these observations other than I’m utterly convinced they’re not alien, super high tech or break the laws of physics (eg inertia). There was no alien crash in Roswell. I also file believe any government is competent enough for the claimed cover up and associated psyops. What I do find interesting is the overlap between people who buy into various conspiracy theories and people who…

The thing about conspiracy theories is that when people who hold power over large groups of people actively mislead them and deny them of a source of authority, those people grasp at what pieces of information they do have in order to build a narrative that isn't tainted by lies.

It is, and I cannot stress this enough, entirely unhelpful for you to ascribe it to main character syndrome or compare it to the belief in an omnipotent God.

If sources of truth in human societies like governments and scientific institutions would stop lying or misleading people nearly constantly then you could call conspiracy people lunatics, or fringe. But you simply cannot.

Not only are people being lied to, but they are being actively disinformed for "their own good." There are massive socializing forces that have taken an active role in manipulating society based around the idea that they know better.

And the ironic part is that, to a degree, they do know better. People act stupid in groups and have important information WITHHELD for various reasons that make it impossible to discern the truth.

If you want to start minimizing the amount of bullshit beliefs that people hold, supernatural or otherwise, you can start by tearing down the systems that are used to create false narratives which push people into those beliefs.

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by VyperCard »

chrisco255 wrote: post #104
smachiz wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean... assuming the Russians have anything that works is probably not a great assumption based on their performance in Ukraine. But I think they provide overlapping, but different, roles. But missiles and torpedoes is why aircraft carriers travel in carrier groups that have defensive capabilities against torpedoes and missiles.

Yes, Russia has the largest nuclear stockpile in the world, they absolutely work and it's unwise to base your opinions on their nuclear and tactical capabilities based on their slow advance into Ukraine. The Poseidon is a 100 megaton nuclear torpedo. It doesn't need to get anywhere near a carrier group to knock out the entire group. It is twice as powerful as the largest nuke ever detonated (at 57megatons) and a Russ…

If it exists. If it works. If if it

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by belter »

- David Fravor and his colleagues, are highly credible witnesses of something they observed visually.

- This is certainly a very interesting interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIUBjvY4PnQ

- There are visual observations, and what are, ( by military standards), flimsy short images/video.

- This analysis partially explains one part of it, without excluding the presence of an object.

- There is also Radar data, but it has not been published or time correlated to the reported visual observations.

Observations:

- These Aliens only seem to want to goof around with folksy US pilots.

- Pilots known to simulate UFO sightings, fans of UFO invasion stories and stories of Russians shooting UFO's and getting shot back. ( watch the interview...).

- These Aliens show up exclusively during their training time and with sightings restricted to areas with US carrier groups exercises.

Also...

- The Aliens don't show up with their "Tic Tac's" or seem to be interested on the Ukraine conflict.

- They don't care about EU or Latin America citizens...

- Don't want to play around with the Russian or Chinese Air Force.

- They don't show up in the data of any of the existing Military satellites capable of reading a bus ticket on the ground from 400 km.

- These Aliens don't show up in the observations of the thousands of professional and amateur astronomers, that scan the sky a total of thousands of hours every night, using some of the most exquisite optical instruments available.

I would say: They either don't exist, or if they do, they are pretty dumb and we have nothing to fear.

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by sterlind »

birdyrooster wrote: post #156
adriand wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We also need to be really honest about what we want this to be, and how that desire influences what we believe about it. I personally want this to be an alien spacecraft, because that's super interesting and exciting. I think the same is true of lots of other people. Unfortunately, there are much more mundane explanations which fit the evidence much better.

Why do you want it to be alien spacecraft? Are you some sort of glutton for punishment?

if the aliens don't annihilate us, maybe they'd be willing to teach us some physics?

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by bostonsre »

nabla9 wrote: post #54
bostonsre wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have any of them made any money from this? What is the hustle?

Oh yes. To the Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences (media & entertainment company) makes this stuff up and sells it. https://tothestars.media/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_the_Stars_(company)

The navy pilots are members of that organization?

Re: Famous Navy UFO video was camera glare, evidence suggests

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Post by president »

jmyeet wrote: post #27

I honestly don’t know what to make of these observations other than I’m utterly convinced they’re not alien, super high tech or break the laws of physics (eg inertia). There was no alien crash in Roswell. I also file believe any government is competent enough for the claimed cover up and associated psyops. What I do find interesting is the overlap between people who buy into various conspiracy theories and people who…

I think a lot of people just find the topic of conspiracy theories interesting and entertaining. You don't need to hate on them for what is essentially a hobby.
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