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Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by Hulitio »

culopatin wrote: post #3
Hulitio wrote: post #2

Just be aware that it might mean for you that you catch COVID and will be sick in your holiday. I got COVID from one event 3 weeks ago and it threw my plans around. It wasn't that big of an issue as I have a booster but I planed to visit a close friend who does cancer treatment and I was quite happy that he had no time for a short visit as I learned about my COVID invection two days later and I don't want to put him…

In reality I all a bit of a theatre. If you believe in the mask effectiveness, you’ll get it when everyone takes their mask off at the same time to eat every time they hand off something. Almost no one wears an n95 for long flights and most people will wear the mask as poorly as they can anyway. Edit: just to clarify, I don’t have anything against anyone who believes in the mask effectiveness and wants to wear it. Bu…

I'm not what there is to believe in mask effectiveness?

There are studies about it.

You don't get infected with COVID just because it's a mix of your own immune reaction, the amount of particles etc.

A mask is really easy to wear and reduces your risk.

I'm not advocating for mask mandates at this point or let's say I don't care about it but if you want to reduce the risk of having COVID while on holiday, I would suggest trying to wear a mask.

Independently of it, in Germany the hospitalization is currently high and plenty of personal is sick. I still don't want to be in a situation of having something really bad and having to be in a hospital right now.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

tomerv wrote: post #14

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

Nice N95 masks are readily available now and more comfortable than they were before 2020. Even when the rule drops you are welcome to wear one. I always feel like I want to throw up while wearing a mask on a plane because it amplifies the thin dry air for me / feels constricting so I'm excited for the rule to be removed as I'd feel less sick on the plane.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by ecf »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #72
tomerv wrote: post #14

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

Nice N95 masks are readily available now and more comfortable than they were before 2020. Even when the rule drops you are welcome to wear one. I always feel like I want to throw up while wearing a mask on a plane because it amplifies the thin dry air for me / feels constricting so I'm excited for the rule to be removed as I'd feel less sick on the plane.

Echoing a comment to the original OP, have you considered taking steps to improve your personal health instead of putting those around you at risk?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by kylehotchkiss »

Reason077 wrote: post #41
jl6 wrote: post #30

Covid appears to be “done” in the UK. Not that the virus is gone, just that there now seems to be widespread acceptance of its health impact, and a strong desire to move on without any restrictions on normal life.

My theory is that there can be only one crisis at a time in this country. Brexit gave way to Covid, and for 18 months or so that was the only story in the news. But now, there’s a frigging war going on in Europe, so Covid might as well not exist anymore.

Before the war, multiple effective vaccines were invented and distributed, promising medications for those sick are distributing, and we have a better understanding of the types of events that cause mass infection (conferences of course!) and a realization that aviation was not the super spreader event that many other things were. We even have increasingly better pictures of vaccine cadence (which I hope just become annual soon!). Covid as a crisis needed to end, and Ukraine has served as an odd segue out of it.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by honkdaddy »

ecf wrote: post #73
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice N95 masks are readily available now and more comfortable than they were before 2020. Even when the rule drops you are welcome to wear one. I always feel like I want to throw up while wearing a mask on a plane because it amplifies the thin dry air for me / feels constricting so I'm excited for the rule to be removed as I'd feel less sick on the plane.

Echoing a comment to the original OP, have you considered taking steps to improve your personal health instead of putting those around you at risk?

That’s the nice thing about N95 masks. If you don’t feel comfortable breathing the same air as those around you, you’re more than welcome to put one on. Seems like the onus is on the prospective mask wearer here, not every single air breather they may come in contact with.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by blub »

jacamera wrote: post #49
tomerv wrote: post #14

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

Have you considered taking steps to possibly improve your own health instead of wishing that a government or corporation would require everyone around you to wear a face covering indefinitely for your own personal benefit?

What’s there to improve about one’s health? Cold viruses are very contagious and the majority of people don’t have good hygiene or consideration for others.

There’s so many people that don’t want to wear seatbelts, what hope is there for masks.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by culopatin »

Hulitio wrote: post #71
culopatin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality I all a bit of a theatre. If you believe in the mask effectiveness, you’ll get it when everyone takes their mask off at the same time to eat every time they hand off something. Almost no one wears an n95 for long flights and most people will wear the mask as poorly as they can anyway. Edit: just to clarify, I don’t have anything against anyone who believes in the mask effectiveness and wants to wear it. Bu…

I'm not what there is to believe in mask effectiveness? There are studies about it. You don't get infected with COVID just because it's a mix of your own immune reaction, the amount of particles etc. A mask is really easy to wear and reduces your risk. I'm not advocating for mask mandates at this point or let's say I don't care about it but if you want to reduce the risk of having COVID while on holiday, I would sugg…

There are studies about it and from what I’ve seen the surgical mask does not show enough impact to say that it clearly helps. The tests of how much the material can filter are irrelevant if everyone is wearing with massive gaps around their faces that let the air go out unfiltered anyway.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by tomerv »

jacamera wrote: post #49
tomerv wrote: post #14

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

Have you considered taking steps to possibly improve your own health instead of wishing that a government or corporation would require everyone around you to wear a face covering indefinitely for your own personal benefit?

I'm not sure what you mean by that. In general I'm healthy. If you're implying I should wear a mask when flying, then the problem with that is that pre-COVID you would be seen as weird for going on a plane with a mask. I suspect it will go back to that status eventually if there are no rules forcing masks. Maybe that's the Nash equilibrium. An external rule can change the equilibrium to something that is better for everyone - including you.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by culopatin »

nicoburns wrote: post #21
andy_ppp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression that masks don't protect you that much, they protect other people from you?

N95 masks do if fitted properly. You can buy one for ~£3, well worth it for a flight in my opinion.

Agreed, but I’ve taken several flights during covid all over the world and I see 1 n95 every 50 people at most. And it’s very likely that the person wearing it does not have covid anyway. The one that probably had covid is that guy with his nose out and the one snacking a little bit the whole flight to not have to wear it.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by Hulitio »

culopatin wrote: post #77
Hulitio wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not what there is to believe in mask effectiveness? There are studies about it. You don't get infected with COVID just because it's a mix of your own immune reaction, the amount of particles etc. A mask is really easy to wear and reduces your risk. I'm not advocating for mask mandates at this point or let's say I don't care about it but if you want to reduce the risk of having COVID while on holiday, I would sugg…

There are studies about it and from what I’ve seen the surgical mask does not show enough impact to say that it clearly helps. The tests of how much the material can filter are irrelevant if everyone is wearing with massive gaps around their faces that let the air go out unfiltered anyway.

Yeah I do ignore those.

They are nice to wear for this reason.

But when I'm wearing them I do have a proper mask.

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