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Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Covid appears to be “done” in the UK. Not that the virus is gone, just that there now seems to be widespread acceptance of its health impact, and a strong desire to move on without any restrictions on normal life.

My theory is that there can be only one crisis at a time in this country. Brexit gave way to Covid, and for 18 months or so that was the only story in the news.

But now, there’s a frigging war going on in Europe, so Covid might as well not exist anymore.

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In reality I all a bit of a theatre. If you believe in the mask effectiveness, you’ll get it when everyone takes their mask off at the same time to eat every time they hand off something. Almost no one wears an n95 for long flights and most people will wear the mask as poorly as they can anyway. Edit: just to clarify, I don’t have anything against anyone who believes in the mask effectiveness and wants to wear it. Bu…

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> Ps: every single person boarding a plane for non urgent reasons is an idiot. Period.

Why?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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This is entirely the wrong take. Its like saying everyone was panicking for no reason in the Cold War because Earth wasn't destroyed in nuclear hellfire. Its feasible that vocal protests helped push back against further tyranny. i dont want to go down the who was right and who was wrong rabbit hole of covid policies. just dont use hindsight to try and retroactively prove your point.

Doesn't that mean you can warn of anything, and if it doesn't happen, you can say "See, it didn't happen because I yelled about it on the internet"?

If they managed to see one post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy then they've probably managed to see the corresponding one.

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Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

If it's anything like my discovery with supermarkets, most of it might not be airborne. I started gelling my hands after using a trolley a few years back. Rarely if ever get sick now. I suspect people sneezing all over the handle and then me rubbing my face was why I was always sick.

Yeah, but SARS-CoV-2 is spread via aerosols, as are influenza viruses [1].

Not to say it's not a good idea to disinfect your shopping cart handle - and the downturn of the last years in non-covid infectious diseases as part of hygienic measures being made mandatory or at the very least somewhat followed proves that -, but it won't help much against covid.

[1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3372341/

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

This is entirely the wrong take. Its like saying everyone was panicking for no reason in the Cold War because Earth wasn't destroyed in nuclear hellfire. Its feasible that vocal protests helped push back against further tyranny. i dont want to go down the who was right and who was wrong rabbit hole of covid policies. just dont use hindsight to try and retroactively prove your point.

The conspiracy theorists always claimed that there is some kind of master plan to enslave the human race by the elite and that masks and whatnot are just the beginning.

How does a minority protest stop the evil masterplan? This makes no sense at all. Either there is a master plan and you have to have 90% of the people on the street opposing this, or there was no master plan from the get go.

The conspiracy theory crumbles under its own weight.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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As long as you realise just how selfish your last sentence is. Presumably you never expect anyone to even help you out at any cost to themselves, no matter how small?

I expect my family and friends to help me out. I don't expect the entire world around me to dance to my tune because of a fear I hold. When I was 10 years old nobody stopped smoking around me in indoor places, so now the same people who smoked all their life and ate themselves obese are afraid of my fresh super healthy fit breath? Sorry, not my problem and I honestly couldn't care less. On my list of priorities that…

Wow! We're talking about wearing a face mask for a short amount of time in very specific situations here, a tiny inconvenience which has proven benefits for a broad swathe of the population (not just the old). No one's asking you to lock yourself at home and not see friends and family. Wearing a mask on a plane is going to reduce the chances of those more stringent measures being put back on the table.

Also, not everyone is selfish, you're projecting the way you see the world onto other people.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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post #30

Covid appears to be “done” in the UK. Not that the virus is gone, just that there now seems to be widespread acceptance of its health impact, and a strong desire to move on without any restrictions on normal life.

My theory is that there can be only one crisis at a time in this country. Brexit gave way to Covid, and for 18 months or so that was the only story in the news. But now, there’s a frigging war going on in Europe, so Covid might as well not exist anymore.

Add the US to the list of "only one crisis".

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Just be aware that it might mean for you that you catch COVID and will be sick in your holiday. I got COVID from one event 3 weeks ago and it threw my plans around. It wasn't that big of an issue as I have a booster but I planed to visit a close friend who does cancer treatment and I was quite happy that he had no time for a short visit as I learned about my COVID invection two days later and I don't want to put him…

Absolute nonsense.

Are you not aware of the steep COVID invection s around the globe?

Germany is now at 150000-200000 daily new cases.

We have not had this before. This means that you chance to get it and perhaps you being sick for 1-3 weeks is much much higher than before.

It was just something I wanted to share so that you might plan ahead for this case or weir a mask to reduce the risk and have a great holiday.

And for the last few weeks way more people got COVID around myself than ever before.

This is also, next to intensive care capacity, a big risk if for example too many people from police, medical sector, fireman get sick in parallel.

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Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

Have you considered taking steps to possibly improve your own health instead of wishing that a government or corporation would require everyone around you to wear a face covering indefinitely for your own personal benefit?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

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