I don't get how a lack of Unicode support has anything to do with making an OS shell that's visually ugly and old-fashioned. There's a difference between being ugly and being broken.
Simplicity. Full Unicode support is horridly complex.
Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics
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#42Microsoft will be copying this for Windows 12 ;-)
That would arguably be an improvement. :)
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#43It's terrible, I love it. I also love that all the setup scripts are badly-written Perl scripts, and even some custom C code just to change the mixer rather than use alsactl. This is 1000% something I would have made years ago. edit Holy moly, the configs are CSV files.... that encode JSON?! And hey, Slack 15 is out! If they do a new release they won't need to release again for another 6 years!
> CSV files.... that encode JSON?!
We need a new schema language with the ability to specify such cross-format …formats.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
yikes. Racial blindness is still a form of blindness. If everyone spent more time working on their own shit everyone would be better off. Instead, one side is scared of and angry at the other side, easily leading to stubborn refusal to grow or down a slippery slope towards hatred or indifference.
> Racial blindness is still a form of blindness I'm Australian, born in the 1980s, spent my whole life here. I can tell you growing up we rarely (if ever) thought about "who is what race". In part it is a cultural thing – in my lifetime, official Australian society (government/media/etc) has discouraged talk of "races", encouraging people to instead identify via finer-grained nationality/ethnicity/culture labels – i.…
It goes back to the civil war and every step of the way when black people here were actively denied their rights that the civil war was supposed to have guaranteed them. I have lived in multiple countries across different continents. Even if race was not as big of a hot topic issue, eceryone could tell if a person of a different race is standing in front of them. So, to simply say racial blindness is the way to go is ridiculous. The fact that they were usually a very small minority and had no historically brutal ties to the founding of that country is probably the reason why it wasn't considered such a big issue.
Nevertheless, ultimately, one can't go through life blaming everything on racism. However, fighting for centuries to be free, to gain rights, only to be systemically rebuffed, ignored and even oppressed and brutalized along the way in different forms, that has to be recognized for what it is. Using a single event to disprove racism and even arguing that some historical things never happened at the very least is willful ignorance. Then, by the same token, reversing certain laws that were meant to safeguard and protect those rights that they finally did end up receiving. Ignoring what that time and history would do to any community to reinforce ones own stereotypical views, as political leaders use it as a way to stir up support from other disenfranchised communities.
In the end, the problems only get worse as the next generation kicks the can down the road. The issue could have been, perhaps, resolved a long time ago. At this point, things look even more complicated and the longer it goes on the more difficult it is to overcome or resolve.
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#45> Windows 3.1 Hot Dog Stand, Amiga Workbench, Atari ST GEM, and Mac Classic and Aqua
Horrible? Were these not the cutting edge? Do we not hark back to these UIs with fondness for their simplicity and 'it just works'?
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#46My company recently issued me a mac for remote work. I'm sorely tempted to load this in a VM so I can "accidentally" share my desktop via zoom and then claim ignorance that this is not in fact MacOS.
Bonus points for doing it with the Amiga theme. “macOS sure is blue.”
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Racial blindness is still a form of blindness I'm Australian, born in the 1980s, spent my whole life here. I can tell you growing up we rarely (if ever) thought about "who is what race". In part it is a cultural thing – in my lifetime, official Australian society (government/media/etc) has discouraged talk of "races", encouraging people to instead identify via finer-grained nationality/ethnicity/culture labels – i.…
It goes back to the civil war and every step of the way when black people here were actively denied their rights that the civil war was supposed to have guaranteed them. I have lived in multiple countries across different continents. Even if race was not as big of a hot topic issue, eceryone could tell if a person of a different race is standing in front of them. So, to simply say racial blindness is the way to go is…
> black people here were actively denied their rights that the civil war was supposed to have guaranteed them.
The Civil War was not supposed to have guaranteed anyone any rights.
Some changes to the Constitution rammed through after the Civil War were, but it's important to separate those from the war, which was about the objective that, even before the rebellion, the notionally-abolitionist Republicans expressly put ahead of treating blacks as humans, the preservation of the unity of the Republic.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Racial blindness is still a form of blindness I'm Australian, born in the 1980s, spent my whole life here. I can tell you growing up we rarely (if ever) thought about "who is what race". In part it is a cultural thing – in my lifetime, official Australian society (government/media/etc) has discouraged talk of "races", encouraging people to instead identify via finer-grained nationality/ethnicity/culture labels – i.…
It goes back to the civil war and every step of the way when black people here were actively denied their rights that the civil war was supposed to have guaranteed them. I have lived in multiple countries across different continents. Even if race was not as big of a hot topic issue, eceryone could tell if a person of a different race is standing in front of them. So, to simply say racial blindness is the way to go is…
> I have lived in multiple countries across different continents. Even if race was not as big of a hot topic issue, eceryone could tell if a person of a different race is standing in front of them.
Really? I'm of predominantly Irish-British descent – are Spaniards, Italians, Greeks a "different race" from me? How about Turks, Syrians, Lebanese, Israelis, Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Iraqis, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Persians, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Indians? You can travel from one end of Eurasia to the other, and people in Western Europe look rather different from people in South or East or Southeast Asia (who in turn look rather different from each other), and yet they are just different extreme points of a smooth continuum – where on that continuum do you draw the line and say that people on this side are one race and people on the other are another? I can't do it, and I don't believe you can actually do it either.
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#49This is so funny
Like... It's a hot dog. Like code version of lips and asses
I'm trying to think of what's still running in objective-c since the 90s outside of legacy iphone apps and it's SOGo [1]
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#50That's pretty cool, it's like if TempleOS was a Linux!
Well, it's missing the games, the religious gospel, and racist remarks by the author.
No! Apparently it does have games! This is crazy, the fonts and a bunch more things are all written in objective-C!
https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/tree/master/MainMenu https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/o... https://github.com/arthurchoung/HOTDOG/blob/master/objects/o...