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Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by ILMostro7 »

zozbot234 wrote: post #12
snek_case wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way? I recognize that the remarks Terry A. Davis made were not his fault, it's the mental illness. Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. I wish his terrible fate could have been avoided, but having been very close for many years to a schizophrenic person, I can tell you that they will only get treatment if they want to. You can't force them. You can try to be there and help them…

> Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. If so, he shares that trait with plenty of people in the US, who increasingly view "racial blindness" as untenable. Of course it's not their fault either: "noticing" race is simply a very successful, self-replicating memetic parasite which can leverage the likes of Twitter or 4chan equally as platforms for its spread.

yikes. Racial blindness is still a form of blindness. If everyone spent more time working on their own shit everyone would be better off. Instead, one side is scared of and angry at the other side, easily leading to stubborn refusal to grow or down a slippery slope towards hatred or indifference.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by chakkepolja »

Alan_Dillman wrote: post #28
zozbot234 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. If so, he shares that trait with plenty of people in the US, who increasingly view "racial blindness" as untenable. Of course it's not their fault either: "noticing" race is simply a very successful, self-replicating memetic parasite which can leverage the likes of Twitter or 4chan equally as platforms for its spread.

Its an absolutely bonkers aspect of US society. Its not that one needs to be blind to "race", and who could be blind to differences in skin colour? Its that Americans seem to be taught that it is so very important, and that instead of applying situational relevancy, they default to cultural relevancy. So race and skin colour gets mentioned all the time, even by people who aren't bigoted. This can be seen in their new…

Not only that, Americans view everyone else and their cultural problems as being similar to theirs. Eg: Journalists who equate India's caste system and racism and writing opinion pieces. (both are terrible, but american journalists understand shit about caste).

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by eyelidlessness »

mbg721 wrote: post #25
moltke wrote: post #24

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Am I weird for liking Chicago?

Do you enjoy casserole that calls itself pizza, and roast beef sub-sandwiches that demand dipping?

Why yes I enjoy both of those things. But the former is better classified as a lasagna. And the latter is just a good way to keep your sandwich intact with such a moist condiment.

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by zaps »

mbg721 wrote: post #25
moltke wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I weird for liking Chicago?

Do you enjoy casserole that calls itself pizza, and roast beef sub-sandwiches that demand dipping?

I like when they put weird shit on hot dogs

Re: Hot Dog Linux – Horrible Obsolete Typeface and Dreadful Onscreen Graphics

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Post by skissane »

ILMostro7 wrote: post #31
zozbot234 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Doesn't change the fact that he had an unfortunate fixation on race. If so, he shares that trait with plenty of people in the US, who increasingly view "racial blindness" as untenable. Of course it's not their fault either: "noticing" race is simply a very successful, self-replicating memetic parasite which can leverage the likes of Twitter or 4chan equally as platforms for its spread.

yikes. Racial blindness is still a form of blindness. If everyone spent more time working on their own shit everyone would be better off. Instead, one side is scared of and angry at the other side, easily leading to stubborn refusal to grow or down a slippery slope towards hatred or indifference.

> Racial blindness is still a form of blindness

I'm Australian, born in the 1980s, spent my whole life here. I can tell you growing up we rarely (if ever) thought about "who is what race". In part it is a cultural thing – in my lifetime, official Australian society (government/media/etc) has discouraged talk of "races", encouraging people to instead identify via finer-grained nationality/ethnicity/culture labels – i.e. "Chinese" or "Indian" or "Vietnamese" not "Asian", "Irish" or "Italian" or "Polish" not "white", etc. The whole "who is what race" thing sounds very American to my ears. I believe that way of thinking is becoming more common here, as Australia becomes more Americanised through social media and other sources, but I'm not inclined to see that as a positive development.

That's not to say there is no problem with racism in contemporary Australia. I remember at my high school, there was a significant minority of students of Lebanese ancestry (it was a Catholic high school, so our ethnically Lebanese students were predominantly Maronite Catholics) – and I definitely remember hearing some mildly prejudiced things said about them, even to their faces. But, in all that, I doubt anybody was ever asking themselves "are Lebanese people white?"

One of my school friends, who is of partial Italian descent (albeit via Argentina/Uruguay rather than directly), had to put up with dumb jokes at school about his dad being in the Mafia. He told me how when his father first moved to Australia in the 1970s, his coworkers would exploit his poor knowledge of English to trick him into saying offensive things to the boss. What "race" are my friend and his dad? The question seems pointless, irrelevant. At least here in Australia, "racism" is generally defined as prejudice on the basis of "race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin" – so it isn't necessary to categorise a person as belonging to any particular "race" to acknowledge them as a victim of racism.

How then does one describe this difference between the US and Australia – between a society which strongly (and maybe even increasingly strongly) focuses on coarse-grained racial categories, and a society which (in recent decades) has had a strong tendency towards avoiding them? Maybe "racial blindness" isn't quite the right term for it, but it seems at least somewhat adjacent.

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