I am an idiot. Would this mean that the time stays as it is right now (after the change from this past weekend)? Because I would love that so much.
Yes! Later sunsets in the winter!
US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#752Let's end the debate, assuage the farmers who opposed time changes from the beginning, and honor every other timekeeping system in our earlier history: From now on, sunrise is 0700. The clock runs from 0700 sunrise to whatever time necessary overnight to arrive at sunrise again, at which point the time becomes 0700. For the part of the year where that duration is greater than 24 hours, the time past 06:59 simply coun…
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#753My personal pet peeve is when people write the Standard Time acronym when scheduling cross-timezone meetings, despite the fact that it is Daylight Saving Time. (Eg. "I'll call you tomorrow at 4pm PST.") In the past, I've gotten paranoid that they may live somewhere that doesn't observe Daylight Savings, but I also don't want to seem like a pedant by bringing up their mistake. I'm curious if this change will make this…
Then the ball is in their court to make sure they meant the same thing.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#754We tried permanent DST in the 70's and it was all well and good until people realized it meant complete darkness at 9am in winter.
I guess an extra 45 minutes of walking their dog in the park after work wasn't worth trudging through the cold black before their morning coffee kicked in.
Let's see if people will feel differently this time around (they won't).
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#755I am extremely surprised at all the people who are against this, saying that "Making DST permanent forces people to wake up earlier." I am not sure I know a single person whose morning wake-up time is dictated by the rise of the sun. Everyone I know wakes up whatever time that their work tells them to. I am happy to have more sun after I get out of work. It was a breath of fresh air this week getting out of work and…
I think this is kind of a conflict between those who are morning people and those who aren't. Many morning people would prefer to have that sunlight in the morning. I'm not at all a morning person and I'd rather have that sunlight after work when I can actually benefit from it.
Same here - I'm a zombie on autopilot in the morning, and I usually start the day with the mindset of "let's see what kind of problems are waiting for me" (e.g. nasty compliance emails with the subject "ACTION REQUIRED!!!", processes that have crashed or are stuck since X hours, etc..) therefore I have anyway a permanent negative association with the first hours of the day independently if it's dark or sunny or rainy etc... .
On the other hand usually by the end of the day I have stabilized the situation and if I'm lucky I can still go out and enjoy a little bit the sun(set), so the longer that lasts the better for me.
I wonder if HN-people in general (doing mostly IT work?) tend to push working hours towards the evenings/nights and are therefore more in favour of daylight savings?
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#759India is basically doing this experiment in real time with their one-time zone policy. Children on the west do worse from an educational standpoint because the sun sets later, yet school starts at the same time.
This was widely covered in the news a few years back.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#760This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the regular time permanent? And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time. I know people will say it's too hard to change habits and (clock) work hours, but with permanent DST you will have to change that anyway, when people realize how dark winter mornings will be. I predict a…
> Why don't they make the regular time permanent? There's a pro-DST lobby because more post-work daylight hours is correlated with higher consumer spending. For that reason, permanent DST is more politically expedient in relation to permanent standard time. > And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time. I don't thi…