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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Making DST permanent is essentially forcing everyone to wake up earlier in the day. All we're doing is calling 7 am, now 8 am to get people to psychologically accept this. This is a win for morning people who function better earlier... AND this is a loss for all the non-morning people who will now be forced to work, go to school, etc at a time when they don't operate optimally.

The change would only happen once, so it might take you a few days to adjust but afterwards it shouldn't matter.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#552

I hate daylight savings time. I get up everyday at 6:00 AM, with a large segment of the population whose workday starts at 7:00 AM every day. They have no choice. And just as it was getting to be light a little at 6:00 AM, we just 'leaped ahead' back into darkness. I would prefer that we just run on standard time all the time. You want more light in your evening? Get up earlier. Go to work earlier, so you get home ea…

> Go to work earlier, so you get home earlier

Must be nice having a job where you can choose when to leave. Most people don't have that option.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#553

This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the regular time permanent? And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time. I know people will say it's too hard to change habits and (clock) work hours, but with permanent DST you will have to change that anyway, when people realize how dark winter mornings will be. I predict a…

This is ridiculous. Why don't they make the DST permanent? And if people want to have more light in the MORNING, then they just WAKE UP LATER. Surely that is easier than permanent REGULAR time.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#554

I hate daylight savings time. I get up everyday at 6:00 AM, with a large segment of the population whose workday starts at 7:00 AM every day. They have no choice. And just as it was getting to be light a little at 6:00 AM, we just 'leaped ahead' back into darkness. I would prefer that we just run on standard time all the time. You want more light in your evening? Get up earlier. Go to work earlier, so you get home ea…

> You want more light in your evening? Get up earlier.

It works both says... just agree on one time.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#555

Watching Americans freak out about post-8AM sunrises is surreal to me. The sun doesn't rise until 8:45 during the darkest times of the year here in the Netherlands and its really not much of an issue. Whether standard time or summer time is the better choice here is something I hold no opinion on, but the sheer hysteria some people here express is very overblown.

The subset of Americans in question doesn't have much in the way of big problems hence why this is getting a "the sky is falling" response rather than a "ok, whatever" response.

Some people will always try to downplay other people's success or misfortune then they stereotype them into a category that isn't themselves but it turns out to represent their unspoken views.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#556

It feels like we live in such a post-truth world, even the clock will now be an untruth. Couldn't we just use standard time, and let people wake and sleep when they choose, instead of creating an illusion for them?

You want truth? The truth is that having every employer who has been using the 9-5 or 8-5 schedule change to some flexible system is never, ever happening.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#557

Watching Americans freak out about post-8AM sunrises is surreal to me. The sun doesn't rise until 8:45 during the darkest times of the year here in the Netherlands and its really not much of an issue. Whether standard time or summer time is the better choice here is something I hold no opinion on, but the sheer hysteria some people here express is very overblown.

It will be funny to see what happens with Alaska, they might have just forgotten about the state Same thing happened in Chile a while back, the entire country was left on "summer time" which then meant that the southern tip of Chile had very, very little sun during the winter during the mornings, the "proper day time" was notoriously "shifted"

It's odd that most places seem very used to longitudinal time zones, but no one seems to be suggesting latitudinal time zones.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#558

I'd kill for a peek into the parallel universe where it was permanent standard time that was likely to get adopted and see how much effort went into researching the ill effects of that choice to convince people with enough FUD to keep daylight time switching going. Here's the thing: If you're a proponent of permanent standard time, you should be in favour of turning off the switching no matter what. Even if it means…

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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#559

Watching Americans freak out about post-8AM sunrises is surreal to me. The sun doesn't rise until 8:45 during the darkest times of the year here in the Netherlands and its really not much of an issue. Whether standard time or summer time is the better choice here is something I hold no opinion on, but the sheer hysteria some people here express is very overblown.

It will be funny to see what happens with Alaska, they might have just forgotten about the state Same thing happened in Chile a while back, the entire country was left on "summer time" which then meant that the southern tip of Chile had very, very little sun during the winter during the mornings, the "proper day time" was notoriously "shifted"

When you're as far north as Alaska, daylight savings stops making sense, because the difference in daylight hours over the year is huge.

At Anchorage's latitude, two weeks after changing back to standard time, sunrise is back at the same time it was before the change, and mornings will get a lot darker until you reach midwinter.

In California, the effect of the change is noticeable, because the difference in daylight hours is small over the year, so people who have only ever lived in California or similar are the ones complaining about "having to go to school in the dark" as if that was some weird anomaly or tragedy.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

#560
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I really don't like that they picked permanent DST. Does no one realize that this means that we all have to get up one hour earlier year round? That kids will have to travel to school in the dark for the majority of the year, including in most cases standing around in the freezing cold at unlit bus stops? It's still better than resetting the clocks. But I really they should have chosen standard time. Also, this means…

> Does no one realize that this means that we all have to get up one hour earlier year round?

What does that even mean?

When the clock changes, it feels one hour early because you were used to something different.

By eliminating clock time changes, it's just the time it is. No concept of "one hour early" anymore.

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