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Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by ginko »

FearTheTrees wrote: post #105
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

I think I speak on behalf of most computer people when I say this: we prefer our extra hour of sunshine in the evenings not mornings.

Why? I would say a large number of computer people owls, meaning they get up late and go to bed late. Permanent DST means you have to get up one hour earlier forever. Seems absolutely terrible to me.

It's also stupid from an astronomical point of view.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by jspaetzel »

rhexs wrote: post #228
mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

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It takes time (investment) to change time... this bit of consultation will likely save a lot of stress for the people implementing this change.

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Post by sdflhasjd »

anikan_vader wrote: post #13
s1artibartfast wrote: post #2

>Sunshine Protection Act Jesus, does everything need to be hyperbolic virtue signaling. Won't someone please think of the children!

When did virtue signaling become a bad thing? If the goal of the act is to protect people's access to sunshine, why not say as much -- at least the act has a human readable name.

When you end up with bills called things like the "Patriot" that whitewash the dangerous capabilities of the laws and at the same time create a name thats immune to criticism.

Obviously ending DST isn't like that, but you have SOPA, EARN IT, etc, etc.

I believe this kind of branding should have no place in legislature.

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Post by vhodges »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

That's not really true... with permanent DST, instead of it getting dark on the 21st of December at 4:30pm it will now not get dark until 5:30 in the afternoon. (I am not really that far north, but that's sunset on the solstice for me)

It's also nice for me personally since my circadian rhythm seems to be on 'Summer' time, all the time.

CA, OR, WA and BC were all on the same page wrt to doing this so this just removes one of the blocks from making it happen.

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Post by thehappypm »

mdturnerphys wrote: post #146

More info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-tha... Important note: "Senator Marco Rubio said after input from airlines and broadcasters that supporters agreed that the change would not take place until November 2023."

That’s pretty soon. It makes sense to take some time to prep.

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Post by johnwalkr »

technothrasher wrote: post #58

Does this mean that I will no longer be able to smugly remind people that there is only one 's' in "daylight saving time"? It was really the only reason I could see for keeping the biannual time change around.

day light’s saving’s time

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Post by heleninboodler »

bilalq wrote: post #54
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Which is what this effectively does. We can get sunset at 5pm instead of 4pm in the winter in Seattle now. Really, the choice is a tradeoff between earlier sunrises or later sunsets.

Yeah, and we're going to get sunrise at 9am in the winter. Good lord, that is going to piss people off.

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Post by Smithalicious »

Watching Americans freak out about post-8AM sunrises is surreal to me. The sun doesn't rise until 8:45 during the darkest times of the year here in the Netherlands and its really not much of an issue.

Whether standard time or summer time is the better choice here is something I hold no opinion on, but the sheer hysteria some people here express is very overblown.

Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent

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Post by colinmhayes »

bduerst wrote: post #198
TheCoelacanth wrote: post #26

Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

Why not just ditch time zones altogether and have everyone on the same clock? DST was good enough to implement while in an agrarian society, so why not the universal clock in a global connected society? Just imagine the precision.

I legitimately want a time gradient. Time changes by a few minutes everyday at midnight or whenever so that the sun always rises at 8. Obviously the hardest solution, but everyone who is trying to coordinate with people has a phone so they'll be fine and it's not like this is a technological impossibility. Seems like having a consistent morning routine would be helpful enough to balance the downsides.
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