Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.
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US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
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#162I love this. I'd even go as far as to support permanent double daylight saving time. Let's get those daylight hours in the evening where they can do some good!
So more dark hours in the morning when it's more dangerous.
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#163Can someone explain why they actually care about this? I always see such strong opinions on it but really, why does it matter to you? Most clocks are digital and change automatically these days and otherwise changing your clocks twice a year is such a minor inconvenience. And whether or not the light should be preferred in the morning or vending is probably a pretty even split. Maybe it’s better to get rid of it (I d…
Because it’s a huge annoyance and wrecks the schedule twice a year of many children, pets, and crontabs.
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#164Does the house need to pass it? Will the president veto it? When can I literally set my clock to this?
> Does the house need to pass it? Yes > Will the president veto it? No > When can I literally set my clock to this? 2023 at the earliest, but probably much later, if ever. The legislative process is not known to move quickly.
Can you expand on why you don't think this will go into effect soon? This is the first I've heard of this bill but given the unanimous passage in the Senste it seems odd that it would fail in the House.
Also, IIRC, bills must originate in the House, which makes me think something like this has already passed there at some point.
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#165Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.
Personally, I have wanted more daylight in the evening hundreds of times in my life, at least. It's the obvious result of average workdays ending at 5 or 6 (or later) and our "free time" being restricted to a sliver of daylight much of the year. But how often have I wanted more daylight in the morning? Basically never.
Don’t worry, employers will move things back to be inconvenient again soon.
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#166Incoming mass patching of any and all Date/Time libraries
Honestly.... California already approved a measure to do this (there are a bunch more steps to make it actually happen). So, this is WAY better than if WA/OR were an hour apart from CA for half the year. Also, Seattle/Portland (etc) would suddenly not be America/Los_Angeles timezone anymore.
WA and OR already did permanent daylight savings time, same as CA. All 3 states were just waiting for the federal government to allow them to change.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#167Can someone explain why they actually care about this? I always see such strong opinions on it but really, why does it matter to you? Most clocks are digital and change automatically these days and otherwise changing your clocks twice a year is such a minor inconvenience. And whether or not the light should be preferred in the morning or vending is probably a pretty even split. Maybe it’s better to get rid of it (I d…
In "spring forward", people lose 1 hour of sleep. The fatige from that has life & death consequences (although I've heard this might be overblown).
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200130144410.h...
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#168Fuck this. Keeping the DST change is still better than keeping DST permanently. We should stay on standard time all year, I'm sick of having 0 daylight in the morning when I get up.
I'd rather it be dark when I wake up and light when I am done working, but to each their own.
No, it's not each to their own because this is a society decision. Having dark for the first few hours of my day is crap for my mental health.
Re: US Senate votes unanimously to make daylight savings time permanent
#169Such a terrible idea compared to permanent standard time. There is plenty of light during the summer, so there's no need to optimize for that. The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.
The amount of sunlight stays the same. The question is whether you want more of it in the morning or the evening, and there isn't a "correct" answer there. Going by general public sentiment I'm willing to bet it's more towards the latter though.
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#170What does this mean in terms of short-term, real-world effect in the US?
Nothing. The House has yet to act, and we don't know if Biden would sign it.
The House undoubtedly will opt to keep standard time permanent.
The committee negotiating a unified bill will settle for a compromise of keeping standard time for 8 months of the year and daylight savings time for 4 months of the year on odd years and reversing the proportion during even years.
There will be intense discussion about whether to do anything special for leap years. After several months of back and forth, someone will point out that there are also leap seconds and leap microseconds, leading to further debate.
The bill will lapse.