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Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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What would be the endgame for Tibetan independence. I can see it going straight to theocracy.

Well good for you cause the Tibetan Government in Exile and the Dalai Lama do not want independence. https://tibet.net/important-issues/the-middle-way-policy/

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I'd encourage people to read the letter that Thich Nhat Hanh sent Martin Luther King on the self immolation of Vietnamese monks: https://plumvillage.org/about/thich-nhat-hanh/letters/in-sea... That letter started a correspondence between the two that led to MLK speaking out against the war in Vietnam.

Very relevant and very moving. Thank you for sharing.

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What are we going to do when Tibetans are ravaged by a theocratic government? Air drop some freedom and democracy. And maybe a few flag emojis on twitter.

What is wrong with a theocratic government if the people want it and it suits their way of life, especially if it is a peaceful spiritual way of life and makes people happy. Last I checked Bhutan, which is also Buddhist, was doing well. Also, I hope you're not saying that the way of the China/CCP is better than how Tibetans were before Chinese invasion. I don't think they were ever ravaged , unless you're referring t…

Bhutan government has done some brutal things to Nepalis in the 90's. Catholic church was much worse when it had actual power. State propaganda can be overwhelming to weak minds but a little history lesson can cure it.

To be clear I'm not for CCP or any autocracy. I'm against theocracy.

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I do wish the world would be more sympathetic to Ukraine and Tibet than it is currently ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet ).

Indeed. Both the Tibetans and the people of Xinjiang deserve much better than what they currently have.

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It's a big mess. The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet, so having that whole area be under the control of either one of these two actors is a recipe for ongoing stability concerns in the region.

Tibet has never been under the control of India as far as I know. It was an ethnically independent region in the past and now comes under the govt of China. So major Himalayan rivers originating in Tibet is a big gain for China and a strategic problem for India, considering China has already built several huge upstream damns across these rivers which irrigate much of N India.

I suppose one could claim that at the time of the Convention of Lhasa, Tibet and much of India swore suzerainty to the same nation of Great Britain.

There's also the concept of Arkhand Bharat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhand_Bharat) which is the notion of a unified Indian subcontinent.

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They have the ability to turn off their pain entirely so it’s less of a miracle than if they were experiencing it.

They are experiencing it. Just because you aren't letting the pain dictate your actions, it doesn't mean you aren't experiencing it. It's about not letting your reflexes override your control.

It’s absolutely shocking how much pain you can be in before losing control if your willpower is strong enough.

Re: Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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I do wish the world would be more sympathetic to Ukraine and Tibet than it is currently ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet ).

It's a big mess. The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet, so having that whole area be under the control of either one of these two actors is a recipe for ongoing stability concerns in the region.

I'm not sure how significant that geographic fact is. Tibet is incredibly remote and rugged. Any kind of dam project large enough to have downstream impacts would be infeasible.
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