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What would be the endgame for Tibetan independence. I can see it going straight to theocracy.

It's for them, as in Tibetans, to decide, not China, not CCP nor anyone else.

What are we going to do when Tibetans are ravaged by a theocratic government? Air drop some freedom and democracy. And maybe a few flag emojis on twitter.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's for them, as in Tibetans, to decide, not China, not CCP nor anyone else.

What are we going to do when Tibetans are ravaged by a theocratic government? Air drop some freedom and democracy. And maybe a few flag emojis on twitter.

We can put a wager on it suddenly being Catholics again, and then we can continue being lazy.

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post #24

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It's a big mess. The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet, so having that whole area be under the control of either one of these two actors is a recipe for ongoing stability concerns in the region.

That doesn't seem right. The North/East borders of India, Nepal, and Bhutan are along the Himalayas. Any river that flows in India should start on India's side of the mountains.

@treis, It doesn't work like that. Rivers can originate anywhere and flow in any direction. For ex- Jhelum and Indus rivers originate in India but flow through Pakistan. I am sure there are many other similar examples.

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem right. The North/East borders of India, Nepal, and Bhutan are along the Himalayas. Any river that flows in India should start on India's side of the mountains.

@treis, It doesn't work like that. Rivers can originate anywhere and flow in any direction. For ex- Jhelum and Indus rivers originate in India but flow through Pakistan. I am sure there are many other similar examples.

In this case, though, they seem to be correct.

A map of the Ganges watershed: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ganges-Brahmaputra-M...

Looks unlikely that Tibet could exert too much control over it.

Re: Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a big mess. The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet, so having that whole area be under the control of either one of these two actors is a recipe for ongoing stability concerns in the region.

> The major rivers of India and China all originate in Tibet Apart from the Brahmaputra, which flows through the part of India east of Bangladesh, I have a hard time finding a major India river that originates in Tibet. Certainly, the Ganges flows west to east. What river(s) do I overlook?

Indeed OPs comment doesn't make much sense. Ganges is sourced in Gangotri, Yamuna in Yamunotri which are in Indian territory, behing massive himalayan wall separating it from (occupied and formerly indian) chinese territory.

Mighty fine hiking locations too!

Re: Popular Tibetan singer Tsewang Norbu dies of self-immolation protest

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's for them, as in Tibetans, to decide, not China, not CCP nor anyone else.

What are we going to do when Tibetans are ravaged by a theocratic government? Air drop some freedom and democracy. And maybe a few flag emojis on twitter.

What is wrong with a theocratic government if the people want it and it suits their way of life, especially if it is a peaceful spiritual way of life and makes people happy. Last I checked Bhutan, which is also Buddhist, was doing well.

Also, I hope you're not saying that the way of the China/CCP is better than how Tibetans were before Chinese invasion. I don't think they were ever ravaged, unless you're referring to the Chinese propaganda to show them as the savior. And, if they were such a savior why are people killing themselves?

Moreover, I'm assuming you're on a similar crusade against the Pope and other theocratic governments, of other religions, in the world.

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem right. The North/East borders of India, Nepal, and Bhutan are along the Himalayas. Any river that flows in India should start on India's side of the mountains.

@treis, It doesn't work like that. Rivers can originate anywhere and flow in any direction. For ex- Jhelum and Indus rivers originate in India but flow through Pakistan. I am sure there are many other similar examples.

I’m quite certain rivers always flows downwards due to gravity. So mountain ranges tend to be problematic to run through.
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