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Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by samsonradu »

can16358p wrote: post #100
JamesMcMinn wrote: post #95

So far I've yet to see a convincing argument for what "Web 3" is and can offer that we can't currently do without the use of a Blockchain. It all seems to boil down to "it'll cost something to do something", which isn't exactly a convincing argument on its own. The responses to this story read rather like Facebook comments on controversial news articles - there's a bunch of comments claiming the website is a bunch of…

Sure. A "free" internet. Not in terms of money, but in terms of freedom of speech without censorship and a controlling authority. With no authority that decides whether I can send money to/receive from someone. Especially living in a corrupt authoratarian system, even only those two outweight all the bad sides (tx fees, scalability, PoW environmental effects) for me. It does more good than it harms in the big picture…

> With no authority that decides whether I can send money to/receive from someone.

That’s actually a good point and Bitcoin/crypto solves this. Why doesn’t it stop there though, what does web3 solve?

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by 411111111111111 »

legutierr wrote: post #104
qbasic_forever wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I have an IP address I can host anything and anyone anywhere on the internet can access it right now. There's no company controlled centralized database I have to get permission from to host an apache server with cat photos for example. Isn't this problem already solved?

If you want to share control of that data with me—and say that the data represents something valuable (or is itself valuable somehow) and we don’t really trust each other not to tamper with it—then the classic “single server hosting data on the internet” doesn’t really do the trick. If the number of people needing to collaborate is arbitrarily large, and includes people who don’t know each other and don’t trust each…

Or just use certificate signing.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by Double_a_92 »

kgraves wrote: post #102
JamesMcMinn wrote: post #95

So far I've yet to see a convincing argument for what "Web 3" is and can offer that we can't currently do without the use of a Blockchain. It all seems to boil down to "it'll cost something to do something", which isn't exactly a convincing argument on its own. The responses to this story read rather like Facebook comments on controversial news articles - there's a bunch of comments claiming the website is a bunch of…

Isn't IPFS (InterPlanetary File System) considered web3? can't you use IFPS without cryptocurrencies? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System

IPFS is basically torrenting, and doesn't even use a Blockchain. And of top of that people are not even using it properly, because centralized nodes seem to be the main wait to get access to the files.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by lpcvoid »

abiro wrote: post #85
ohgodplsno wrote: post #77

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This is not a problem anyone has ever had. The entire world is running on either no coordinated mutations, or batched mutations that are spreading over time. If you're found not respecting the mutations that my Apache server has done, the only thing that happens is that you get banned or fined. Cryptobros see the world as absolutely unable of trust, when it's ran for millenia on it.

If you’re running Postgres you have this problem and you gave it a centralized solution.

I can run Postgres with no cryptobro crap required. Huge advantage. If people don't want to trust my instance, then we can start signing blobs so my instance only shovels dumb data around that anybody can verify being authentic. If relationships are required to be verifiable, we can build a PKI.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by bruhhh »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #25

"We are checking your browser... welcome2web3.com Please stand by, while we are checking your browser... Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page. Please enable Cookies and reload the page. Why do I have to complete a CAPTCHA? Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property." Hmm, Meet the new web. Same as the old web. I'll pass. Thanks. EDIT: I guess I didn't see…

you missed the joke

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by foxes »

I remember when ""crypto"" was just shitty ICOs that tried to prove something happened in the real world with a computer program. Blatantly ridiculous, but it pumped. It's funny how its devolved into Nazi ape pictures, or more insidious nested abstract financial blub products that idiots pump money into so someone can skim off the top. I really hope the whole thing collapses.

Re: Welcome to Web 3.0

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Post by hijodelsol »

MaxKK wrote: post #98
JamesMcMinn wrote: post #95

So far I've yet to see a convincing argument for what "Web 3" is and can offer that we can't currently do without the use of a Blockchain. It all seems to boil down to "it'll cost something to do something", which isn't exactly a convincing argument on its own. The responses to this story read rather like Facebook comments on controversial news articles - there's a bunch of comments claiming the website is a bunch of…

Crypto makes it possible to own something digitally. Web3 incorporates this ownership. While Web 2.0 was about writing something to the internet and the World Wide Web was about reading something on the internet. It's a further iteration which just makes sense.

It does NOT make it possible to own something in any meaningful way. (Intellectual) property rights already take care of ownership. Ofc, there are illegal ways of just taking what you want, but that is a crime like under all other circumstances. The only thing crypto enables is to have a ecologically destructive, slow, redundant database that says “X belongs to Y”. The thing is though, you could just create a different database. And having your entry in that database does not legally equal ownership. So it doesn’t solve anything but now there’s money involved so people try to scam you.
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