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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by isaiahg »

chlorion wrote: post #334
mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

I do honestly wonder if there is some sort of campaign against Mozilla and Firefox at this point. It might not be a paid thing or some sort of conspiracy, but just an echo chamber effect that keeps getting more intense over time. In every single thread it's the same stuff rehashed over and over, and dramatic takes about absolutely trivial changes or people being mad over Mozilla political stuff like them canning a fo…

I don't have much else to add because your post perfectly sums it up. To me it seems it started when Brandon Eich was outed, a segment of the tech community never let it go and views everything they do with extreme scrutiny. I don't feel like it's deserved at all. Mozilla has new leadership and Brandon has moved on to other great things like the browser Brave. Mozilla and the work they've done for open source is irreplaceable. I still use Firefox and filezilla all the time and Rust has been such a massive success that even Microsoft is using it in Windows.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by isaiahg »

staticassertion wrote: post #295
mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

I'm fine with this move but Mozilla has sunk well below an acceptable bar. The company sucks and has failed us all. The CEO is a joke and should have never been in the position.

Do you care to explain why you feel that way. All this hate I see for Mozilla really feels undeserved considering all the good they do

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by namibj »

RobertMiller wrote: post #51
verdverm wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Google Translate app has OCR and translation overlay, both live and static. Pretty slick imho

I'm aware of that, but it's not suitable for me. I'm looking for this functionality on my real computer, not my phone.

Google Lens may be accessible via the web-version of Google Photos. I know that has OCR functionality with at least easily-accessible translations (iirc not overlayed on the image, though).

Not sure if Google Lens is accessible outside of the app, though.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by wvenable »

mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

Mozilla is just another corporation and they continuously work on things other than their primary product. It's not an impossible standard -- it's just what Hacker News wants from Mozilla and what Mozilla wants from Mozilla are two different things.

As a user of Firefox, I just want them to make a better browser both on the desktop and mobile. Mozilla wants to find ways to make more revenue.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by 3np »

nathanaldensr wrote: post #340
perihelions wrote: post #191

Here's a workaround to add an arbitrary non-blessed search engine as the default (i.e. what the omnibar points to): https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-or-remove-search-en... Be aware that in Firefox, the "Search Bar" is a distinct widget from the "Address Bar" (omnibar/"awesomebar"). If it's missing or you can't find it, here's the docs for that UX flow: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-firefox-co…

I tried this, but as soon as I remove all other search providers, Firefox automatically adds Google to the list. All searches then use Google.

Sounds like a bug that should be reported.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by alphabetting »

namibj wrote: post #353
RobertMiller wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm aware of that, but it's not suitable for me. I'm looking for this functionality on my real computer, not my phone.

Google Lens may be accessible via the web-version of Google Photos. I know that has OCR functionality with at least easily-accessible translations (iirc not overlayed on the image, though). Not sure if Google Lens is accessible outside of the app, though.

it's one click away in Chrome on any image

example here from a letter written by an Estonian elementary school kid

https://lens.google.com/search?p=ASQ0Rg3fjG6zLfDe_EcGm4W9cTi...

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by alphabetting »

baud147258 wrote: post #238
charcircuit wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google translate's mobile app supports it along with realtime translation from your phone's camera.

what option exists to have that functionality on a computer?

you can right click in Chrome on any image for Google lens

https://lens.google.com/search?p=ASQ0Rg3fjG6zLfDe_EcGm4W9cTi...

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by asabjorn »

smt88 wrote: post #12
mistrial9 wrote: post #2

can we recognize the difference between civilians (people) and armed participants in conflict (military) in this discussion?

The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

What is actually happening is that Russia has moved onto the Chinese alternative to SWIFT, India&China&Iran&Syria etc are forming an alternative block, and Russia is put into a close relationship with China. This is not a good idea because Russia&Ukrain&Belarus produce 1/3 of all corn, a huge chunk of fertilizer production, and a huge chunk of many commodities essential for the little industry we have left.

What will happen if a significant portion of oil is no longer traded in dollars? The dollars value is supported by the large amount of oil trades, and without it the US can't run the deficits its gotten used to. The US has transferred much of the industrial base to China which makes it hard to recover from that.

> Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

Russia is the largest nuclear force in the world, and as Afghanistan and Ukraine shows a conventional war is very resource demanding. If the US went to direct war against russia that would be WWIII, and considering that there are nuclear stakes here that is not a good idea.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by waon »

chlorion wrote: post #334
mmastrac wrote: post #282

I am consistently disappointed by any thread involving Mozilla on Hacker News. Somehow Mozilla is held to an impossible standard. For the one company out there holding the internet away from a WebKit monoculture, they sure get the short end of the stick by people here.

I do honestly wonder if there is some sort of campaign against Mozilla and Firefox at this point. It might not be a paid thing or some sort of conspiracy, but just an echo chamber effect that keeps getting more intense over time. In every single thread it's the same stuff rehashed over and over, and dramatic takes about absolutely trivial changes or people being mad over Mozilla political stuff like them canning a fo…

I believe some of the Chromium folks are partly responsible for this. Though it's probably not a planned "campaign" of any sort, I've seen some prominent figures constantly direct hatred toward other browser vendors online, and countless webdevs piling on. I'm not posting links because many of them are highly toxic, but browser developers on the receiving end has expressed their frustrations more than once.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by oefrha »

kome wrote: post #335
oefrha wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I’m aware of that. People would like to donate specifically to Firefox development though, and some donate to Mozilla Foundation under the impression that it would help. I’ve certainly done that in the past.

yes, but donations is not a business model

Who said donations have to be the only source of income?
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