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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

#41

My submission was flagged because of the phrase “golden shower”, huh. Copying it here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/shortlog/35f... Basically, Firefox 98.0.1 is a point release only concerned with removing Yandex search for users in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey, and switching them all to Google by default. Some old promotions from mail.ru and ok.ru were blocked, too, but these have been…

I've found niche uses for Yandex; translation specifically, which can do OCR on images you upload to it. Google translate won't do that, last I checked. If anybody knows of an alternative, I'd like to hear about it.

Google translate's mobile app supports it along with realtime translation from your phone's camera.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

#42

My submission was flagged because of the phrase “golden shower”, huh. Copying it here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/shortlog/35f... Basically, Firefox 98.0.1 is a point release only concerned with removing Yandex search for users in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey, and switching them all to Google by default. Some old promotions from mail.ru and ok.ru were blocked, too, but these have been…

I've found niche uses for Yandex; translation specifically, which can do OCR on images you upload to it. Google translate won't do that, last I checked. If anybody knows of an alternative, I'd like to hear about it.

The Google Translate app has OCR and translation overlay, both live and static. Pretty slick imho

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

#43

My submission was flagged because of the phrase “golden shower”, huh. Copying it here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/shortlog/35f... Basically, Firefox 98.0.1 is a point release only concerned with removing Yandex search for users in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey, and switching them all to Google by default. Some old promotions from mail.ru and ok.ru were blocked, too, but these have been…

I've found niche uses for Yandex; translation specifically, which can do OCR on images you upload to it. Google translate won't do that, last I checked. If anybody knows of an alternative, I'd like to hear about it.

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

>So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen?

Probably, yes. That never would have happened, but that would indeed be the logical conclusion. And I'm fine with that.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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can we recognize the difference between civilians (people) and armed participants in conflict (military) in this discussion?

Why this even relevant? I want to talk about Mozilla Firefox removing control from the user, which was their promise for years. I don't see difference between them doing it for political message, or Google doing it for profit.

Can't you just, like, manually add Yandex as a search option?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

#47
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Why this even relevant? I want to talk about Mozilla Firefox removing control from the user, which was their promise for years. I don't see difference between them doing it for political message, or Google doing it for profit.

Are they? Do you know about their contract with yandex? You are emotional about something that is 100% financial in nature. If it wouldn’t be you can bet that with the Mozilla Foundation being the way they are in the last years would ponder themselves with a blog post or at least a tweet. Money talks or in this case it doesn’t anymore.

> Do you know about their contract with yandex?

I frankly don't care. I don't use Yandex, but if I did, I'd be really pissed off at this move. Firefox shouldn't be including only search engines that pay a fee; they should be including all search engines that their users might find useful.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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I doesn't matter why, what and how are damning enough on their own. A legit change in some deal does not explain several aspects of this update. When something doesn't add up, you are supposed to scrutinize it, not just assume it's fine. If it was fine, then why wasn't there an honest explanation? Mozilla did a bad thing. If our speculations about the why are wrong, it doesn't change anything about what is wrong with…

It’s their browser not yours if you don’t trust them use something else. I keep away from defaults especially search because they are usually paid for and not in good faith. They also dropped yandex two times already and you guessed it right… because of monetary reasons. This is not the smoking gun you want it to be.

> It’s their browser not yours if you don’t trust them use something else.

That's... not how things work. If you're not happy about something, you should complain about it. That's the only way that people's preferences become known, and changes can be made. If we all constantly hopped from product to product when the product we're currently using does something we didn't like, we'd very quickly run out of options.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Yes, it's does remove search option. See this article (sorry, in Russian) but s-shot is missing yandex https://vc.ru/services/379414-poiskovik-yandeksa-propal-iz-n...

Not sure it’s the right patch though. (Does a search engine need an extension to support being used for omnibox search? It might.) In any case, the two ultimate sources of the linked report seem to be: Grigory Bakunov[1] (ex-Yandex) observes Yandex has been removed (but e.g. OZON is still there): https://t.me/addmeto/4782 (ru, but basically amounts to a screenshot) Mozilla posts a vague note saying the “default searc…

> Does a search engine need an extension to support being used for omnibox search? It might.

No, IIRC it just needs to have an appropriate OpenSearch xml file to have support for omnibox. I use a third-party engine that isn't bundled in FF and it works fine in omnibox.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

#50
Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself.

None pass the test of being open or neutral.

At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind of like a lunatic sometimes being accidentally right.

Note the downvotes, for my sin of even mentioning the word "crypto".

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