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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Yes, I’m aware of that. People would like to donate specifically to Firefox development though, and some donate to Mozilla Foundation under the impression that it would help. I’ve certainly done that in the past.

yes, but donations is not a business model

Huh? There are tons of organizations (charities) for whom it is the business model.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

Brave. It was founded by Brendan Eich, who also founded Mozilla, but was ousted before all of this weird non-mozilly stuff started happening.

What's the status on allowing all addons and devtools on Brave for Android? I switched away from brave to another browser because those features were stripped out.

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Off-topic, but Firefox is on 98 already? isn't Chrome on 99 too? Was their goal to "catch up" or something?

Yes, when Google Chrome started doing more frequent releases with new major version numbers, there was an impression that Chrome was newer and better while Firefox was still old and lagging with a low (single digit) version number. Then Firefox shifted to doing a release once every six weeks, and over the years, the major version number has closed in on Chrome and will overtake it soon. On a related note, Firefox doe…

Firefox’s release cycles switched from six weeks to four weeks a few years ago. Chrome and Firefox are both on four week release cycles, so Firefox’ version number won’t overtake unless Mozilla or Google change something.

They’ll both hit version 100 in just a month or two. If too many websites are broken because they never expected a browser’s User-Agent string to have a version number with more than two digits, Chrome or Firefox might need to freeze the version number advertised in the User-Agent string.

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I do honestly wonder if there is some sort of campaign against Mozilla and Firefox at this point. It might not be a paid thing or some sort of conspiracy, but just an echo chamber effect that keeps getting more intense over time. In every single thread it's the same stuff rehashed over and over, and dramatic takes about absolutely trivial changes or people being mad over Mozilla political stuff like them canning a fo…

It's not like this is unique to Mozilla though. Once you get big enough, you end up attracting a critical mass of people who like to rehash the same old grievances. Take any HN thread about Google, for example.

Except with Google, Google keeps committing the sins, and when even informed that they are doing it, executives at Google just respond "working as intended, WONTFIX".

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The CEO raised her own wage repeatedly while the Firefox market share tanked, during which she directed spending to useless projects that were all eventually shelved and proceeded to plaster Firefox in ads (full page after update) when it became obvious her strategy was an abject failure. Firefox development itself has been rudderless and lethargic for a long time. WebKit introduced backdrop filters 7 years ago and F…

Baker became provisional CEO in December 2019, and formally took the job in 2020. We only have salary information for one year she held the position, if that. I'm not sure if 2019 or 2020 is the last available. And when executive salaries were rising and user share dropping, revenues were way up. From $120 million in 2010 to $520 million in 2016. Of course some of that will go to the people in charge.

The extra cash is not because Firefox is more successful, it's an additional bribe from Google so they can point to an alternative browser when governments come after them for browser anti-trust.

Most of their non-Firefox pet projects have been failures.

Implying she joined in December 2019 is seriously underplaying her role before then. [1]

Her accomplishments as CEO are tanking growth, a slew of failed projects, massive layoffs and the expansion of obnoxious full-page banner ads baked into the browser.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Mozilla_Foundat...

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I don't think Firefox actually takes donation anyway. It's specifically put under Mozilla Corporation so it can generate profit.

Yes, I’m aware of that. People would like to donate specifically to Firefox development though, and some donate to Mozilla Foundation under the impression that it would help. I’ve certainly done that in the past.

>People would like to donate specifically to Firefox development though

Then find a developer and ask them if they take direct donations.

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yes, but donations is not a business model

Huh? There are tons of organizations (charities) for whom it is the business model.

How many of them make web browsers? An engineering team that can build one is not cheap.

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Yandex News are definitely in line with Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway.

> ...Russian government propaganda. It's a news aggregator, so it might look like propaganda because all popular news outlets are propaganda. Not sure if they filter anything themselves. But I think it still makes sense to put a pressure on the company anyway. As opposed to what Western News Media coverage on the war has turned into, aka, more Propaganda? The middle ground is not promoting our own Propaganda instead,…

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It's not like this is unique to Mozilla though. Once you get big enough, you end up attracting a critical mass of people who like to rehash the same old grievances. Take any HN thread about Google, for example.

Except with Google, Google keeps committing the sins, and when even informed that they are doing it, executives at Google just respond "working as intended, WONTFIX".

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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meg_Whitman

The list goes on of conservative woman CEOs, but you probably should do some personal introspection on why the concept of such a person makes you upset.

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