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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

As a brown person I keep asking myself this everyday, it doesn't seem fair at all. If you raise the point you're making you'll be drowned out with "don't bring me your whataboutism, lives are being lost as we speak". Brown lives have been lost for quite a while now ...

And brown lives are being lost as we speak in Palestine and Yemen.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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People are dying in Yemen every single day, and the world doesn't exclude Saudi Arabia from everything. The double standard happens right now even.

Once the war in Ukraine is over, maybe there's an opportunity here to focus a boycott on them ?

The war in Yemen started first. Why should we be focused on Ukraine when the war in Yemen isn’t over?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Off-topic, but Firefox is on 98 already? isn't Chrome on 99 too? Was their goal to "catch up" or something?

I remember Mozilla were pretty pissed off at Chrome’s inaccurate versioning that induced a feeling of “chrome is 60 but ff is still on 3.5 so chrome has to be better “.

That's definitely the impression non-techy people seem to get from the numbering.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Yes but they keep doing these "small" things, that individually don't cross any lines but do add up over time.

I feel like this is a weird attitude to have toward an open-source software project. "Sure, developers added 900 performance improvements / new features / bug fixes this quarter to a browser I get to use for free, but they also did 2 non-critical things I don't really care for so now I oppose this software." I do think it would have been _better_ if Firefox made the set of included-by-default search providers somethi…

I fancy myself a fairly technically aware person, and I have no idea what improvements, features or bug fixes Firefox added this quarter that would outweigh all the little and big bad things. In terms of performance, a recent patch made Electrolysis or what it is they called their per-domain process thing the default, immediately making CPU and especially RAM usage shoot up massively (as well as introducing some new bugs pertaining to dead IPC pipes). I tried to put up with it for maybe a week and then switched it off by an about:config switch, which I'm entirely sure they will remove in another 10 versions at the latest. The only way in which I see them adding features takes the form of supporting the latest of the stream of under-the-hood changes that keep coming out of Google's web standard printer, which generally seem to add no user-visible functionality or benefits but are inevitably relied on by some random subset of important websites resulting in the internet gradually breaking if I don't want to update my browser.

I would much rather they use their dwindling influence on standards bodies to block and sabotage the changes that necessitate the constant updating (and attendant maintenance burden which takes smaller browser projects out of the running) at every turn; and if it so happens that this results in their influence disappearing even faster and/or them getting booted, then at least this may pave the way for the long-overdue antitrust suit against Google that many have been saying Mozilla's existence serves to prevent.

(It's not like Firefox is developed by unpaid volunteers. Am I using the browser "for free" if Google sees it as advantageous to pay them money for, among others, my continued existence as a user of the browser?)

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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post #36

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

Please point me to where the Us made it their policy to terror bomb civilians.

It’s not Russian policy to terror bomb civilians. But as with America’s wars, civilians get killed in large numbers because that’s the nature of high intensity warfare, at least when you’re not trying engage in a surgical coup as Russia comically attempted during the first few days of this war.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Is it necessary to boycott private firms that didn't necessarily support the government decision? Or is there any proof that they actually played a role in current ukraine situation?

My understanding is that results from Yandex were spreading propaganda from Russia, backing up the false narrative that they hadn't done anything, or that everyone in Ukraine is a nazi, etc.

Would love to hear more if anyone has information, I'm possibly misremembering.

Also, private companies are an important part of a nation's economy. Restricting them surely impacts that nation, so the idea seems sound?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

Brave.

It was founded by Brendan Eich, who also founded Mozilla, but was ousted before all of this weird non-mozilly stuff started happening.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

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Clearly you haven’t interacted with many Indians (particularly regarding the Ukrainian conflict) if you think they’d be on board with your Western Imperialist fantasy.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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An invasion of Russia would risk the destruction of the entire globe by nuclear weaponry. Ousting Putin and destabilizing Russia would increase the risk of nuclear weaponry making its way to more violent regimes. I do not think either of those is particularly wise.

More violent regimes than Russia?? I am not sure they exist right now. Nobody else is threatening nuclear war, while invading a peaceful neighbouring country, slaughtering civilians.

Ukraine was anything but peaceful. They’ve had neo-Nazi national guard troops fighting communist separatists for 8 years now.
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