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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by waffleiron »

sarma912 wrote: post #60
BirAdam wrote: post #36

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So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

As a brown person I keep asking myself this everyday, it doesn't seem fair at all. If you raise the point you're making you'll be drowned out with "don't bring me your whataboutism, lives are being lost as we speak". Brown lives have been lost for quite a while now ...

People are dying in Yemen every single day, and the world doesn't exclude Saudi Arabia from everything. The double standard happens right now even.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by waffleiron »

smt88 wrote: post #22
BuckRogers wrote: post #20

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I don't think it's controversial that Putin deserves to be ousted by a foreign military as much as anyone. He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. > Install anyone else that's not insane, say Navalny. Well, we definitely couldn't install anyone. We'd have to administrate an open election. > I read they have 50%…

>He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day.

This is Biden too. Literally can unilaterally start a nuclear war.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by vbezhenar »

MisterSandman wrote: post #46
leosarev wrote: post #4

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Why this even relevant? I want to talk about Mozilla Firefox removing control from the user, which was their promise for years. I don't see difference between them doing it for political message, or Google doing it for profit.

Can't you just, like, manually add Yandex as a search option?

You would need to have some skills for that. My grandma wouldn’t be able to do that and this change would disrupt her workflow. Not the end of the world, but this is user hostile change. I’m fine with removal of this engine for new installs, but pulling the rag under existing users is wrong. This anti-Russian madness gone completely out of control. I bet this change alone will drive a significant chunk of Russian Firefox users to Yandex Browser. Unlikely the intention of Firefox developers but here we go.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by tomjen3 »

leosarev wrote: post #4
mistrial9 wrote: post #2

can we recognize the difference between civilians (people) and armed participants in conflict (military) in this discussion?

Why this even relevant? I want to talk about Mozilla Firefox removing control from the user, which was their promise for years. I don't see difference between them doing it for political message, or Google doing it for profit.

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dhdjjd »

BuckRogers wrote: post #29
smt88 wrote: post #22

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I don't think it's controversial that Putin deserves to be ousted by a foreign military as much as anyone. He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. > Install anyone else that's not insane, say Navalny. Well, we definitely couldn't install anyone. We'd have to administrate an open election. > I read they have 50%…

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Thanks god Russia has nukes, otherwise American liberators would have already liberated us. (I don't justify Ukrainian conflict, it's another issue).

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dionian »

notavalleyman wrote: post #63
fleddr wrote: post #50

Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

Yandex is hardly a politically neutral web service, though

We used to be able to say AP, Reuters, NYTimes aren't partisan, and we used to be able to joke about RU news being Pravda-style propaganda. Unfortunately, we can no longer really mock the Russians this way with a straight face, as we have now started to look more like Soviet Russia.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by saghm »

ogurechny wrote: post #54
nix0n wrote: post #40

The release notes for 98.0.1[0] are more clear: > Yandex and Mail.ru have been removed as optional search providers in the drop-down search menu in Firefox. [0] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/98.0.1/releasenotes/

Note that is the first ever straightforward announcement of the removal accessible to the end user, and it wasn't even available when release happened (about 12 hours ago). It's like giving a hard hat to a man that has already got to the emergency room.

That seems a bit overdramatic; it's not like people couldn't still access those search engines at all in Firefox; they just would have to go directly to the website instead of using the dropdown menu. I'd imagine that typing the name of one of them into Google or DuckDuckGo would lead to their site pretty easily

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by tomjen3 »

BirAdam wrote: post #36
smt88 wrote: post #12

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The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? The entire planet should also be isolating Saudi Arabia for its genocidal war in Yemen? These things are done without the consent of the governed, and these things are often done without even the knowledge of the general pu…

Please point me to where the Us made it their policy to terror bomb civilians.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by kragen »

ogurechny wrote: post #11

My submission was flagged because of the phrase “golden shower”, huh. Copying it here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/shortlog/35f... Basically, Firefox 98.0.1 is a point release only concerned with removing Yandex search for users in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey, and switching them all to Google by default. Some old promotions from mail.ru and ok.ru were blocked, too, but these have been…

I've found datasheets on Yandex I couldn't find anywhere else because of the SEO spam.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by sarma912 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #80
sarma912 wrote: post #74

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I'm sorry but comments that harken back to ye old Rome are infuriating and it leaves a sour taste in ones mouth. I know this war is bad, but man people need to just own up, otherwise none of us can more forward. Pax Americana is fine, but you don't get to kill people and then turn back and tell me to wave a flag because grand old Europe is having it's "freedom" threatened.

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