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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by perihelions »

Here's a workaround to add an arbitrary non-blessed search engine as the default (i.e. what the omnibar points to):

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-or-remove-search-en...

Be aware that in Firefox, the "Search Bar" is a distinct widget from the "Address Bar" (omnibar/"awesomebar"). If it's missing or you can't find it, here's the docs for that UX flow:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-firefox-contr...

If you do this, you can (of course) revert your change in about:preferences#search; the new search engine will persist there as an alternate choice.

(Tested and confirmed this works with e.g. Yandex in release version 98.0.1. This patch only removed, essentially, Firefox' promoted or sponsored search engines -- not core functionality. (It also erased and reset user preferences, but that's a separate problem)).

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by smt88 »

waffleiron wrote: post #82
smt88 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's controversial that Putin deserves to be ousted by a foreign military as much as anyone. He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. > Install anyone else that's not insane, say Navalny. Well, we definitely couldn't install anyone. We'd have to administrate an open election. > I read they have 50%…

>He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. This is Biden too. Literally can unilaterally start a nuclear war.

> This is Biden too. Literally can unilaterally start a nuclear war.

So what? What does that have to do with anything?

Biden has never threatened nuclear war and has nothing to gain from it. Putin has threatened it repeatedly in the last few weeks.

Biden is more powerful than Putin, Stalin, or Hitler, but he is not as dangerous.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by lizardactivist »

thbw wrote: post #162

Throwaway for obvious reasons. This is hypocrisy of Western democracy. I can't recall when Google was removed after US invaded so many countries. Why do Western companies oppress free speech when it doesn't match their narrative (Julian Assange, now Russian media)? Why not give Russian "propaganda" tell its narratives and let people decide? Are you afraid of their truth/"truth" or are you afraid people will follow th…

Well said. We here in the west have to stop pretending we are at the absolute center of truth and justice, and stop silencing all the sensible voices that try to bring attention to our own hypocrisy.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by ogurechny »

nickysielicki wrote: post #138

I’ve been using yandex as my open-source/public/spam-heavy email provider for a handful of years. Ignoring the current conflict, the yandex product is pretty good. Their search is, IMO, second only to Google, at least for technical queries. Edit: probably going to just buy a domain and protonmail as a contingency plan, though. Don’t want to lose access.

Sadly, search quality for “the rest of the world” has been neglected for years, and it's a miracle yandex.com still works. Mail is one of the services that is kept up to date, with translations and stuff, and it's nice.

As for the global issues,

a) Iron curtain for the Internet (i. e. absolutely everything not working properly) would be a sure way to get every commoner, currently soothed with entertainment, on the street.

b) This won't last long anyway. I would be more worried about sudden drop of funding and technical issues.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by marginalia_nu »

_-david-_ wrote: post #182
marginalia_nu wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the same time, sites like 8chan and kiwifarms manage to get hosting. Perhaps the lesson is to stop dealing with big tech companies.

You pretty much have to deal with big tech to have an app and no social media site can really be big without it. (I know side loading exists on android). Parler hosting on Amazon was an incredibly dumb decision though.

An app is basically just an HTML widget. Do you really need an app?

Like the main reason you typically build one is because it's much harder to spy on your users when they're in a browser.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by BuckRogers »

dhdjjd wrote: post #149
dTal wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do seem to be having some difficulty liberating yourselves.

Living without free press is better than being dead. And it doesn't matter to me whether good or bad guys kill me.

I don't believe in liberating anyone from authoritarianism that doesn't want to have a free and democratic system. That's why mideast liberation hasn't worked. No one was asking. The Russians want a better life, just ask the ones that come here to study, find mates, and never go back. I know plenty of them from my university, happily married to whoever from wherever, and residing in the US or Canada, working and living peacefully as contributors to society. Russians are quite intelligent people too.

The Russians are probably the least likely to want liberating from what I've seen of all Europeans, but I do think a plurality of Russians would want this. Which justifies it. That said, without this invasion of Ukraine and the danger I feel it presents to my homeland (the US), I wouldn't even be bringing this up. The Russian Federation would be on their own. It's just that the leadership over there is now a danger to everyone else.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by smt88 »

klausjensen wrote: post #96
BirAdam wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An invasion of Russia would risk the destruction of the entire globe by nuclear weaponry. Ousting Putin and destabilizing Russia would increase the risk of nuclear weaponry making its way to more violent regimes. I do not think either of those is particularly wise.

More violent regimes than Russia?? I am not sure they exist right now. Nobody else is threatening nuclear war, while invading a peaceful neighbouring country, slaughtering civilians.

Xi and Kim have killed far more people than Putin has (so far). There may be up to 2 million Uyghurs in camps, and it's not a stretch to assume that at least 10% are going to die of natural causes.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by thbw »

millzlane wrote: post #181
thbw wrote: post #162

Throwaway for obvious reasons. This is hypocrisy of Western democracy. I can't recall when Google was removed after US invaded so many countries. Why do Western companies oppress free speech when it doesn't match their narrative (Julian Assange, now Russian media)? Why not give Russian "propaganda" tell its narratives and let people decide? Are you afraid of their truth/"truth" or are you afraid people will follow th…

How is Mozilla choosing which search engines to show in their browser oppressing of free speech? "Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech Are they blocking users from going to those sites? No. Are they preventing those sit…

> How is Mozilla choosing which search engines to show in their browser oppressing of free speech?

Because similar action wasn't taken against Google when US invaded so many countries!

> Just because you don't agree with Mozilla on this action doesn't make it oppression of free speech. This is simply one organization deciding not to have a relationship with another organization.

In this case taking away choice from Russians not from organization. Of course they are going to use just website, but still there is clear signal to selectively support one side, even though action of other parties were equally bad. Why open source software is making decisions based on politics happening around.

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