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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by kubav »

smt88 wrote: post #12
mistrial9 wrote: post #2

can we recognize the difference between civilians (people) and armed participants in conflict (military) in this discussion?

The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

I do not think that it is that easy. It is more like Russia does not respect international law so they will be cut from world economy as soon as it is possible.

Sanctions cannot stop this war unless they will lead to coup or state collapse (both are unlikely in near future). Sanctions put pressure on Russian elites and together with foreign aid also probably will prevent Russian victory in Ukraine.

I hope that no one is so stupid to resume business with Russia if they end the war quickly. They need to completely change their mindset from imperialism first. Otherwise it is similar to doing business with North Korea.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dTal »

waffleiron wrote: post #82
smt88 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's controversial that Putin deserves to be ousted by a foreign military as much as anyone. He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. > Install anyone else that's not insane, say Navalny. Well, we definitely couldn't install anyone. We'd have to administrate an open election. > I read they have 50%…

>He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. This is Biden too. Literally can unilaterally start a nuclear war.

True, it's an extremely dangerous situation for nuclear weapons to exist at all.

Biden, however, has not threatened to use them. Nor does he rule over his subordinates on pain of extrajudicial murder, so there's a few checks and balances there. Alas the same cannot be said for Putin.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by Dunedan »

kazinator wrote: post #77
m0ngr31 wrote: post #76

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Should they have blocked Google and Bing after the invasion of Iraq?

Bing didn't exist in 2003 (launched in 2009), and I don't think that Firefox ("Firebird" at the time) had a search bar with search engines.

That got me curious, so I fired up some old versions of Mozilla Phoenix and checked that out. Turns out already Mozilla Phoenix 0.2 (https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/phoenix/releases/0.2/), released on October 1, 2002, which was the version which originally introduced the search bar, offered the ability to select different search providers.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by jwmhjwmh »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #80
sarma912 wrote: post #74

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I'm sorry but comments that harken back to ye old Rome are infuriating and it leaves a sour taste in ones mouth. I know this war is bad, but man people need to just own up, otherwise none of us can more forward. Pax Americana is fine, but you don't get to kill people and then turn back and tell me to wave a flag because grand old Europe is having it's "freedom" threatened.

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> Comparing what Russia is doing in Ukraine to anything the US has done in the last 100 years is an exercise in false equivalence. One so blatant that it defies any attempt to interpret in good faith.

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you completely ignorant of history? What about Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Iraq?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dTal »

dhdjjd wrote: post #85
BuckRogers wrote: post #29

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Thanks god Russia has nukes, otherwise American liberators would have already liberated us. (I don't justify Ukrainian conflict, it's another issue).

You do seem to be having some difficulty liberating yourselves.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by stonewareslord »

fortnum wrote: post #104
bobmichael wrote: post #101

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Why? Honest question.

Honest answer :) Because I do not condone that move. It will be difficult because I have been using Firefox for years and tried to avoid anything Chrome-based and I am not very happy with Google's Manifest v3 approach, but Mozilla just crossed a red line for me.

Did it really cross a red line for you? I feel like Firefox is judged much more harshly than Chrome and it's unfair.

Mozilla the company has made some terrible decisions that I strongly disagree with (update page featuring a movie ad, pocket integration, removing a search engine from the defaults, nerfing android addons for no reason)

But compared to every other browser, I don't understand how people think it's even a comparison. Chrome (user history tracking, targeted advertising, FLOC, manifest v3, strong-arming due to market share, etc etc), Edge (same as chrome but replace G with M), and Brave (referral link injection, cryptocoin adware).

To me, no single thing on FF's list is worse than any single thing in the other list. And together it's out of the question which is better.

I don't think it's useful to tell regular people not to use Firefox either unless you tell them they really shouldn't be using the other three (which I doubt many are doing). Am I missing something? Honest question - do you really think the negatives of having someone use not-firefox outweigh the negatives of Firefox?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by clucas »

ipaddr wrote: post #113
floatboth wrote: post #58

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The browser is provided for free. Selling search defaults/inclusions is by far the least intrusive way to make money to fund the development of the browser.

Least? Least would be fundraising in Hollywood not selling out default preferences to the highest bidder. Almost all browsers are free. All major and minor ones are free.

I suspect that if Firefox got most of its funding from Hollywood, it would be even more susceptible to the politics-du-jour. Why do you think high-profile fundraising would make Firefox more independent?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by BlueTemplar »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #80
sarma912 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but comments that harken back to ye old Rome are infuriating and it leaves a sour taste in ones mouth. I know this war is bad, but man people need to just own up, otherwise none of us can more forward. Pax Americana is fine, but you don't get to kill people and then turn back and tell me to wave a flag because grand old Europe is having it's "freedom" threatened.

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The wars and embargo in Iraq ?

(Hopefully we'll be careful this time about what is being embargoed, the Russian population is now the best shot of getting rid of Putin, once the horror of what is happening in Ukraine to their friends and family filters through Putin's propaganda.)

It might also help, if it makes a politician think twice next time before calling to invade, sorry "bringing democracy" to a country... (USA, thank you for giving democracy a bad name by the way.)

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Post by dTal »

dionian wrote: post #86
notavalleyman wrote: post #63

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Yandex is hardly a politically neutral web service, though

We used to be able to say AP, Reuters, NYTimes aren't partisan, and we used to be able to joke about RU news being Pravda-style propaganda. Unfortunately, we can no longer really mock the Russians this way with a straight face, as we have now started to look more like Soviet Russia.

Please. Let me know when people start getting sent to gulags - or simply killed - for publicly rejecting the official (single) party line of the United States. The false equivalence is getting out of control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...

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