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Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by jayknight »

dddddaviddddd wrote: post #50
Ajedi32 wrote: post #29

This is outdated right? The article is from back in January, before Google relented and added a way to migrate back to a regular Gmail account: https://www.androidcentral.com/g-suite-legacy-free-edition-u...

This tool hasn't been released yet, right?

I check this page every week or so:

>In the coming months, we'll provide an option for you to move your non-Google Workspace paid content and most of your data to a no-cost option. This new option won't include premium features like custom email or multi-account management. You'll be able to evaluate this option prior to July 1, 2022 and prior to account suspension. We'll update this article with details in the coming months.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217#data&zippy=%2Cif-i...

I'm kind of counting on that being available before they start charging me.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by Hamuko »

croutonwagon wrote: post #43
zerocrates wrote: post #28

So the last I heard about this, Google had relented to some extent and was going to offer some offramp for people who had data, purchases, etc. in an old free Apps for Domain/G Suite/Workspace account. They had a form you could submit to saying you wanted more information about those options. Has anyone heard any more on this front? I don't mind paying someone else just to run email for my domain (or potentially even…

I signed up for the form. Have not heard but they DID say it would be after April 1. My guess is they have a Family Tier. Same limits as free, but with a cost. Personally I'm willing to foot the bill if i have to, but that will probably only be a stopgap to get to something that is cheaper. Unfortunately a lot of the heralded services (ie: ProtonMail) dont have the same services (ie: no contacts sync or notes sync et…

I'd be willing to pay for it if it's actually good value, because the current G Suite sure is not.

You need to pay $6/month, or $72/year to get 30 GB of storage + custom domain. If you're on Gmail and pay nothing, you get 15 GB of storage. If you're on Gmail and pay $20/year (or $1.99/month) towards Google One, you get 100 GB of storage.

Basically, the custom domain part of G Suite costs quite a lot considering how little of anything else you get in comparison to cheaper Google One plans. No idea how expensive that can be, since Apple will sell me a 50 GB iCloud+ account that has custom domain emails, iCloud Private Relay and other features for 0.99 €/month.

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Post by Freak_NL »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #37
insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

> You can export mail from Google. I've tried to do it on some old G Suite accounts that got suspended and no, you can't.

IMAP just works; at least as long as the account is active.

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Post by anaisbetts »

insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

You can't export purchased licenses for software / media to another Google account, nor can you migrate Google Play Developer accounts. The mail isn't the problem, the problem is everything else tied to people's personal Google accounts

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Post by jbverschoor »

insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

Actually keep getting errors on my accounts after the expiry is supposedly finished

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by chriscjcj »

> "Hey Google, if you expect users to pay for the privilege of using services that were marketed for free to small organizations or families, you can at least migrate to a regular free plan. options can be provided. While you’re at it, here’s how to go about fixing the shortcomings of Google Workspace to make it worth the attached monthly fee."

Hey Nation World News Desk... Google doesn't care.

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by judge2020 »

tjr225 wrote: post #45
gowld wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What free services do you operate?

Doesn’t google harvest advertising data from all of their “free” offerings?

Workspace ads work differently - for example, before 2017, Google didn't scan Workspace email for ad targeting (they no longer do it for personal email inboxes either[0]). That's the general rule, any official Workspace products[1] won't display ads or contribute to an advertising profile[2].

0: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/26/534451513...

1: https://workspace.google.com/intl/en/terms/user_features.htm...

2: https://support.google.com/googlecloud/answer/6056650#zippy=...

Re: Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage

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Post by kelnos »

insaneirish wrote: post #24

> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…

I've been making a list of all the Google services I use that are tied to my account, and what migrating to a free/personal account would look like. Yes, I can get pretty much all the data out, but it's incredibly lossy, and much of it just cannot be imported into the new account at all, and some of it that can be, will require me to write a bunch of tools that use Google's various product APIs.

I've already moved my email and contacts from my GSuite account to Fastmail, but that's a tiny part of the story.

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