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Google Is Holding All Your Old Free G Suite Accounts Hostage
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#12Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.
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#13Yet another good, working service that Google shuts down for the almighty dollar
I don't even mind paying for it but the nature of the transition and the cost for the features is obscene. For example, I have a secondary address for business reasons and in the new g suite that has to be an "account" which costs money every month
I maybe mistaken but I believe you can create additional aliases under the same account -- I seem to remember doing that a few months back when I got auto-updated to Google Workspace.
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#14Yet another good, working service that Google shuts down for the almighty dollar
What free services do you operate?
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#15Yet another good, working service that Google shuts down for the almighty dollar
I don't even mind paying for it but the nature of the transition and the cost for the features is obscene. For example, I have a secondary address for business reasons and in the new g suite that has to be an "account" which costs money every month
No it doesn't? You can set up unlimited aliases, afaik. If you want to have separate access however, it does. I'm currently planning to migrate my script-sending email address to mailgun or SES instead of using a separate gmail user.
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#16I migrated to Zoho back in January for email and opened a regular Google account for YouTube etc. Just waiting for them to kick me off now.
How did it go for you and how does Zoho compare? Did you migrate from free G suite specifically? Did you have custom domains?
I tried this in 2018, and had problems with notifications under iOS, and there wasn't support for syncing contacts and calendars. Also, Zoho its offering is pretty huge, so for example grokking the settings screens takes some effort. Perhaps someone can give a more recent update?
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#17Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.
There is a hidden cost to this though. Running your own email server, or even having a lesser-known company manage your email server, can cause your emails to be sent to spam without any action on your part. You aren't notified when your email goes to a spam folder, so you always have to worry that the recipient of your emails didn't receive the email, even if you only ever send legitimate emails. If you stay on top…
In theory this shouldn't be a problem if you aren't using a known-trash IP and have SPF and DKIM set up, since the only thing the major inbox providers want is a way to verify and associate spam reputation with a domain instead of an IP. If this really hurts you can just set up Amazon SES use that via SMTP, you'll get 62k free emails a month (always free, not just first 12 months).
This even works if you want a mostly-free setup: you have MX forwarding via some provider (Cloudflare, your registrar, etc) going to a personal address, and SES operates as your outbound SPF that works with Outlook/Gmail in terms of allowing you to set your domain email(s) as aliases within their interface.
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#18Yet another good, working service that Google shuts down for the almighty dollar
What free services do you operate?
Indeed. I can hardly blame any company for shutting down a free tier of service. I think many people would've been happy if Google Reader would've stuck around for a monthly fee.
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#19For people only using it as an email backend: there are plenty of cheap, privacy-respecting alternatives such as mailbox.org (the one I've used for 7-8 years now).
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#20Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.
OpenBSD with opensmtpd is the most sane approach to SMTP. You probably will need dovecot for IMAP which is not that easy to configure but default configuration mostly fine.