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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

How does crypto fix this? The problem is not with their claim that this is a vulnerability - people have been shouting about this vulnerability long before crypto was invented - the problem is the claim that they will somehow fix this with tokens or DAOs

Well, optimistically we can at least say that some crypto projects attempt to decentralize functionality and assets.

You're quite right though that the devil is in the details, and that most of the time, these projects are not immune to politics or ad hoc regulation.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's controversial that Putin deserves to be ousted by a foreign military as much as anyone. He's certainly much more powerful and dangerous than Stalin or Hitler because he can unilaterally end human life on earth at any moment of any day. > Install anyone else that's not insane, say Navalny. Well, we definitely couldn't install anyone. We'd have to administrate an open election. > I read they have 50%…

from my understanding of the development of the international oil trade in the 20th century, one of the key advancements by multinational oil in the West was to learn lessons from the British, and do two important things on foreign soil: always back a leader that can hold on with local support; always pay the Nationalist/Military oil interests very well, in addition to making trade rights built-in. Unfortunately, it…

Do you have a good book rec around British oil and lessons learnt?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

Yandex is hardly a politically neutral web service, though

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

So why can't we just build our own infrastructure? It's not as though you need spectacular sums of money to run a search engine or a social media platform. You need a few decent engineers for sure and you probably won't get rich from it, but most of this is demonstrably doable even without clouds.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

How does crypto fix this? The problem is not with their claim that this is a vulnerability - people have been shouting about this vulnerability long before crypto was invented - the problem is the claim that they will somehow fix this with tokens or DAOs

It allows for decentralized payment systems. The problem is that the downsides so far make it not worth it, usually.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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My submission was flagged because of the phrase “golden shower”, huh. Copying it here: https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-release/shortlog/35f... Basically, Firefox 98.0.1 is a point release only concerned with removing Yandex search for users in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkey, and switching them all to Google by default. Some old promotions from mail.ru and ok.ru were blocked, too, but these have been…

I've found niche uses for Yandex; translation specifically, which can do OCR on images you upload to it. Google translate won't do that, last I checked. If anybody knows of an alternative, I'd like to hear about it.

Not too long ago, Yandex's Latin translation feature was leaps and bounds ahead of Google's. Just as one anecdata point.

You can still access Yandex in Firefox, it just won't show up as a supported provider choice.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Never before was the open internet challenged this hard, and never before has it failed so hard. Under pressure, every single thing is subject to politics and cancellation: browsers, search engines, search results, social media, cloud infrastructure, payment systems and even money itself. None pass the test of being open or neutral. At this rate, your much hated crypto folks may actually start to have a point. Kind o…

So why can't we just build our own infrastructure? It's not as though you need spectacular sums of money to run a search engine or a social media platform. You need a few decent engineers for sure and you probably won't get rich from it, but most of this is demonstrably doable even without clouds.

go work for few years for a facilities-based last mile and middle mile ISP that runs things at the OSI layer 1 and 2 level of the internet and then tell me if you think your statement is accurate.
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