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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by crtasm »

metadat wrote: post #18
fuckcensorship wrote: post #2

NewPipe [1] is an open-source alternative, although latest versions of Vanced will supposedly keep working for the foreseeable future [2]. [1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://nitter.net/YTVanced/status/1503055442506915846#m

Sorry to shit on this, but NewPipe sucks. In my experience it's a waste of time to try and use it as a YT client replacement. It barely works, if at all. Casting definitely never ever worked for me, not even once. The user experience is unfamiliar and seems significantly worse than Vanced. Vanced is what the official youbutt app should've been. RIP.

I use Newpipe every day, it works great for me.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by samtheDamned »

malka wrote: post #318
jesprenj wrote: post #70

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A great issue for me with NewPipe is the fact that it does not support signing into an account. The developers claim it's a feature that will not be implemented. Without the great music recommendation system I might as well just listen to my Jellyfin song collection. What value does YouTube even have without recommendations?

you are literally the first person I know that enjoy youtube recommendations. It pushes trash to my feed.

the youtube home page pushes exponentially more trash than the recommendations do though

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by crtasm »

RealStickman_ wrote: post #374
creshal wrote: post #343

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- Video playback breaks regularly and it takes 4-5 days for fixes to hit F-Droid. This is waaaay too slow. - Random other stuff keeps breaking, not that the 100+ lines of recursive Java gibberish in the crash popups tell you what broke (but the crash reporter itself does break regularly, too) - App structure is counterintuitive: You have tabs on the main screen, and the side bar... duplicates the tab buttons, but tur…

I'll just note that you first issue, with updates being delayed by 4-5 days is a general F-Droid issue and not specific to NewPipe. The delay exists, because F-Droid builds every application on their own server and that takes a while. You could search for an alternative repo that just pulls the apk from github (maybe Izzydroid?), or host one yourself.

If you install their APK manually it can notify you when there's an update, and just a tap to download the new APK. There's also an offical newpipe repo you can add to f-droid.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

AnonCoward4 wrote: post #358
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #356

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I have no idea why modding a microwave at a third-party service center would be illegal. Yes, the rules for digital should be changed to be more alike the physical world, especially regarding ownership, resales, lending/borrowing and modification.

> I have no idea why modding a microwave at a third-party service center would be illegal. If you remove the source of revenue for a given product without consent of the manufacturer/developer of that product and do this in a professional fashion, you are inflicting severe damage to that manufacturer/developer of a product. The reason why digital problems are not easily transferred to the real world or back is in thi…

So if a refill a printer cartridge (a revenue source), that's illegal?

Clearly it's not: https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/250050-supreme-court...

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by izacus »

Steltek wrote: post #365
izacus wrote: post #363

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> GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices. Wasn't that just moved to Google Podcasts? (Although, something like PocketCasts IMO is a better service.)

I had no idea that existed. From my perspective, the feature vanished into thin air. I wasn't a heavy podcast listener so this was kind of a Google Reader situation; I simply stopped listening to podcasts.

Google being Google in their product behavior ^^

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by crowbahr »

bdlowery wrote: post #303
TheNewAndy wrote: post #125

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I'm not a power user, but I have found this combination works well: Firefox + uBlock Origin + Video Background Play Fix uBlock Origin -> removes the ads (but no sponsorblock) Video Background Play Fix -> lets you turn off the screen or switch tabs with it still playing

I found an even easier combination: Doing none of that and just pay for YouTube premium.

I pay for YouTube premium and use vanced.

Why?

Because sponsorblock is fantastic and I can set my default video speed to 2x.

That's it. That's all I wanted. But I was more than happy to install and maintain the app to do so.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by bduerst »

mdoms wrote: post #160
deworms wrote: post #114

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Financially supporting Google is the last thing I want to do. I'd rather flush the money down the toilet than pay for Youtube.

How about financially supporting the people whose content you consume?

The fact your question is downvoted really speaks to the motives of content consumers.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by detritus »

Semaphor wrote: post #332
rvbissell wrote: post #184

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As a native speaker I am well aware of that, but my typing muscle-memory is to some degree phonetic and on autopilot. So I sometimes reread what I wrote and discover I used e.g. 'two' instead of 'too'. It's/its is another common one.

> e.g. 'two' instead of 'too' Oh wow. So, is this a common thing? When I type without thinking about it too much, and with my typing not being able to keep up with my brain, I tend to make those errors a lot. But I thought it was just me being dumb and not some general thing that happens to people.

*hand up here

I also sometimes put in an entirely incorrect word that is vaguely like the one I intended, with amalgamated hints of a neighbouring word, usually the one after. My brain just melds them together. Sometimes I read what I write and wonder how on Earth I can be such an idiot. Blessed are those times I catch such fuckwittery before posting.

- ed

the its/it's one is really annoying though, because of course I KNOW which is correct, but sometimes my finger just slips and sneaks in that apostrophe.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by ehsankia »

Steltek wrote: post #361
ehsankia wrote: post #289

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I'm curious what features did GPM have that YTM doesn't have?

GPM had podcast integration. Being a cloud service, it synced state to all my devices. Until last month, kids could not use YTM. With the family plan, this was basically a DOS for years (or setup new kids accounts and lie about their age). IMO, GPM's recommendations were much better. We kept the family plan because of YTP and my wife and I still had access to music.

I guess if you're a very casual podcast listener, and with the lack of proper migration path it can be confusing, but a dedicated Podcast app makes a lot more sense than the half-assed "podcast is music" integration that GPM had. If you've never tried it, a real podcast app is orders of magnitude better. Speed controls, feed management, silence trimming, auto download, archiving, etc.

The lack of kids support is very true. The free tier also was quite trash for a long time, and the lack of desktop casting. Most of these have been since fixed though and at this point I would say YTM has feature parity.

Recommendation is always hard to discuss as it's very subjective. That being said, YTM has great playlists. It automatically clusters your music into 7 playlists which is describes with 4-5 artist names. There's discovery, replay and new release mixes which are great too.

Overall, I agree GPM got shut down way too soon, but at this point YTM has made a lot of progress vs what it was 2 years ago.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Post by joshstrange »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #113
indigodaddy wrote: post #75

I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

It's $15 a month here. I don't think I can happily pay $0.50 every day just to be able to keep listening to the news after I push the lock button on my phone. I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators, but right now, my opinion on youtube itself is that it's hostile to anyone who needs to use it.

I watch very little YouTube, probably <1h/mo on average but I continue to pay their $15 just so I don't have to see an ad. On desktop I can adblock but on mobile it sucks. I hate casting video (Chromecast) at a friends house and having to see an ad. For that alone I'll pay their stupid fee.
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