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Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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It is a whole different ruleset. In earlier China lockdowns there were stories of infants starving to death after their parents were forcibly locked down.

That's complete bs lol. Please leave the commentating to people who actually know what's going on.

This was a long time ago, so I can't find the link. It may have been a variation on this story

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-chi...

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Only a thousand daily cases in a country with a population of 1G? That's either very impressive, or very impressively underreported. For comparison, Belgium currently has 10 times as many daily new cases, with a population that's 100 times smaller (and no lockdown).

China is engaging in some combination of not measuring/not reporting/lying on the subject of COVID infections. Ourworldindata claims [0] that their case counts are comparable to New Zealand. There needs to be a much, much more powerful argument than "they've got CCTV and powerful bureaucrats!" before anyone can take those figures seriously. [0] https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases

Prejudice. The current number of COVID cases in China is real. BTW, I think, in HN and reddit, sometimes we demonize the Chinese government too much and live in an "Information Cocoon Room" more or less.

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Anecdote: we have a Hong Kong location (hkcolo, TKO) and suddenly, in the last 2-3 weeks we are seeing email notifications about positive tests and exposures and contact alerts at the datacenter. This is new. They were not having these positive test results nor having these exposures at any time prior. From the outside (thank god) it appears that c19 is running through HK much faster than at any point prior …

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The pandemic response globally has been a case study in what not to do. A perfect storm of misinformation and fear, plus a healthy dose of opportunism. Now the CDC is straight up withholding data in case we “misinterpret” it. [1] [1] https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20220222/report-cdc-not-publ...

No, just no. Yes, there’s been hiccups. Yes, misinformation made rounds. But we formulated safe and effective vaccines in months for it, rolled them out in ridiculous speeds and saved many lives. In contrast to past pandemics, we’ve handled this ridiculously well and we owe our butts to recent advancements in mRNA tech. So no, historically speaking, it’s been a case study of “there’s been problems, but an overwhelmin…

So how many lives were saved by vaccines (to the nearest thousand)? And how many by lockdowns?

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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If another covid strain hits, I'm leaving new york permanently and just living remotely in CO.

I've re-tooled my life two times in the past three years and I'm just ready to check out at this point from social bullshit.

Anyone else in this boat? Modern life is broken, I held out for office / sort of social culture to come back since I know it's better for me (as an introverted person) but at this point in my mid-late 20s I'm just sort of done. I probably wasn't good enough to really leverage opportunities in NYC anyways...

Cheers.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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I greatly empathize with anyone who lost a loved one to Covid over the past two years. Sorry for your loss. However, I do think that the reason we took lockdowns as a solution is because China did the same in the first place. But I don't think we should do that again. I will speak for myself, and I have no epic reason, I am just tired of it all.

I strongly identify with this. I followed all of the rules for the past two years in downtown manhattan and I'm just done.

If this strain happens to be pervasive and everyone freaks out again I'm just done with pretending cities are a thing / anything in person is a thing anymore.

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Anecdote: we have a Hong Kong location (hkcolo, TKO) and suddenly, in the last 2-3 weeks we are seeing email notifications about positive tests and exposures and contact alerts at the datacenter. This is new. They were not having these positive test results nor having these exposures at any time prior. From the outside (thank god) it appears that c19 is running through HK much faster than at any point prior …

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Thank you for sharing all of this - appreciated.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Omnicron in particular is so low impact that the response is primarily political, especially when you have vaccines and some pre existing immunity. Countries can choose to pretty much ignore it or go crazy over it as the politicians and Twitter demand. We just got bored of it in the UK and moved onto Boris’s parties and now Ukraine.

Omicron could be the best thing that happened -- a mild, very infectious variant that gives everyone NATURAL herd immunity to the entire coronavirus family. Why are politicians so afraid of it?

It's not mild, just milder than Delta. It's a deadly disease that's killing people.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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And 8K deaths since 2020: https://covid19.who.int/region/wpro/country/cn How the WHO can report these numbers with a straight face is beyond me.

How you are able to have such cognitive dissonance in believing that China is an authoritarian government that locks down entire buildings because someone tested positive for a mutation of a cold virus but also not believe they have had few covid cases is beyond me.

They also have a ridiculously huge and dense urban population.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Anecdote: we have a Hong Kong location (hkcolo, TKO) and suddenly, in the last 2-3 weeks we are seeing email notifications about positive tests and exposures and contact alerts at the datacenter. This is new. They were not having these positive test results nor having these exposures at any time prior. From the outside (thank god) it appears that c19 is running through HK much faster than at any point prior …

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mRNA is basically as worthless as inactivated viruses in preventing omicron spread as well, seeing how omicron has burned through most of the west. Difference in efficacy will buy a few days before exponential curve takes over. Reality is Omicron has closed the gap in performance between different vaccines, which is to say, render them woefully insufficient in preventing medical systems from being overwhelmed. Preventing severe cases is about the only utility for vaccines now, the major epidemiological intervention is back to crushing the curve / maintaining covid zero for population with low covid exposure. Or else PRC would be as / more screwed than countries that depend on mRNA.
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