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Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by ttybird2 »

atoav wrote: post #13
waihtis wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggesting Russians are playing a rational game here? I think the cover has been pulled on the Russian "master strategy".. it's literally a hierarchy of terror and lies, where everyone will do whatever it takes to please the irrational autocrat. I have been spamming this lecture everywhere since the war started and again I think anyone who's still questioning the Russian operative reality should watch it: Evaluation…

I watched that evaluation yesterday and I think it is spot on and I second your recommendation. Many western officials (as most people) seem to be unable to put themselves into this different environment and framework of values. Knowing a lot about a country helps, but judging them by the values you'd have doesn't help you a bit. Edit: Take the below with a grain of salt, this is one personal experience which can/sho…

No offense but I don't see much difference between this and "a black person was mean to me once".

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by iszomer »

Moru wrote: post #86
verisimi wrote: post #40

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Should I judge all individuals by the country they come from? Within your own country, have you met people who are great and others who are not? Even within your own school or workplace? Although governments that run countries would have you believe there is such a thing as a country - this is merely a fiction that is commonly believed. There are no countries, just beliefs. There are no collectives either - that too…

Yes ofcourse we are all the same, people. But we people have been brought up in different cultures and been fed different naratives so we act differently depending on what we have been brought up to. We can learn to be one way or other to a certain degree.

Going on a different tangent, I watched an interesting video [1] from The Behavior Panel podcast attempting to discern tactics from Putin's social cues in parallel to the trustworthiness of his messaging and, whether the historical context he provided were reliable or not.

I think I can reasonably conclude from watching their perspective that he's masterful in deception.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXGQzuaNic

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by sobriquet9 »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #90
j16sdiz wrote: post #82

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GPS spoofing is the same signal, emitted at different time and space.

Which is why the GP mentioned encoding the timestamp and mentioned data packages (ergo package based one-directional communication). If by same signal you mean looking similar, but not containing the same data, then the problem is already solved. If you mean containing the same data, then there is no problem.

This requires a precise internal clock that is always correct. If that clock drifts or is reset because the battery dies, GPS receiver would stop working.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by sokoloff »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #77
jl6 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though plan A (rapid victory) appears to have failed, there is still a rational plan B: carve out the eastern and southern portions Putin wants, leave the rest of the country a smouldering ruin which will cost the west $1tn in aid to rebuild.

>will cost the west $1tn in aid to rebuild Why the west? Sanctions against Russia should stay on place until they agree to pay for the reparations.

How long is the western world willing to leave Ukraine in ruins until Russia agrees to pay for the reparations?

They seem equally likely to pay the reparations as Mexico is to pay for a wall.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by waihtis »

cracrecry wrote: post #98
waihtis wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggesting Russians are playing a rational game here? I think the cover has been pulled on the Russian "master strategy".. it's literally a hierarchy of terror and lies, where everyone will do whatever it takes to please the irrational autocrat. I have been spamming this lecture everywhere since the war started and again I think anyone who's still questioning the Russian operative reality should watch it: Evaluation…

You can see lots of things about Putin, but being irrational is not one of them. Putin behavior makes lots of sense. In fact way more sense that European leaders for example. For example: https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Putin-German-nuc... There is a video of that more than ten years ago. Here Putin was saying that Germany energy strategy was nuts and he was right. How stupid some leader could be to make…

I would never make the mistake of thinking him stupid, but the power structure underneath him pervades his visibility and makes him do irrational things. Seriously, watch the lecture I linked.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by manuel_w »

T-A wrote: post #34
TrackerFF wrote: post #30

Russia has previously and frequently conducted (GPS) jamming exercises in the northern area, which has resulted in the same thing for pilots there. EDIT: These things are more likely to happen in times of military exercises or similar activities. Right now there's lots of activity in the Baltic region - which is likely why things are happening. Whenever there's large NATO exercises in Northern Norway, these things st…

> Whenever there's large NATO exercises in Northern Norway, these things start happening. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_192351.htm

Please don't just drop a link but elaborate a bit what your trying to say by posting that link.

Was expecting something interesting GPS jamming related, but the article doesn't even contain the word "GPS". You likely posted it to tell there are currently NATO exercises going on in northern Norway. Your post could have benefited from adding this bit of info.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by iszomer »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #56
kube-system wrote: post #6

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GPS jamming is not a secret technology, it’s something that you can expect in a war zone and it’s a technology you can buy on aliexpress. GPS is actually a couple of different signals, and the general public gets the shitty one. The military has some additional protections and better receivers.

GPS jammers are also used by truckers, rental car drivers, etc., and they have stopped airplanes before: https://www.cnet.com/culture/truck-driver-has-gps-jammer-acc... It's also something air defense teams would use to try to redirect missles (make them miss their mark because they have to rely on less effective navigation matters) On the other hand, radio transmission is relatively easy to locate, and ham radio ope…

What's more interesting is the deployment of certain radio jammers at airports [1] to dissuade drone operators from flying their toy into restricted airspace.

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/meriameberboucha/2019/01/28/how...

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by newaccount2021 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #77
jl6 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though plan A (rapid victory) appears to have failed, there is still a rational plan B: carve out the eastern and southern portions Putin wants, leave the rest of the country a smouldering ruin which will cost the west $1tn in aid to rebuild.

>will cost the west $1tn in aid to rebuild Why the west? Sanctions against Russia should stay on place until they agree to pay for the reparations.

No post body was provided.

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by waihtis »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #99
waihtis wrote: post #52

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Reality shatters your point really quickly, it's even mentioned in the lecture (suggesting you didn't watch it): Russians have literally had 8 years of democracy in the past 600+ years, otherwise it's always been an autocracy.

The Yeltsin regime was more democratic to you? How so?

More democratic to what? To an autocracy? Yes by definition

Re: Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference

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Post by trasz »

waihtis wrote: post #60
dazc wrote: post #21

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I've only lived in 3 countries and all I have learned is that some people are good/nice/polite and some people are bad/ugly/rude regardelss of their nationality, religion or culture.

Are you then claiming that 70% of Russians are jerks? Because that's the current approval rate of Putin according to the latest post-war poll by Levada. [1] [1] https://www.levada.ru/2022/02/04/odobrenie-institutov-polozh ...

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