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Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by user_named » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:37 AM UTC

elric wrote: post #96

user_named wrote: post #84

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> Did they not tell you that in Belgium? What's up with this pointless snarkiness? You're making it sound like the machinations of an evil propaganda machine, when in reality Belgium has been quite good at overreporting covid stats. Not sure which stats you're referring to as being "some of the worst in the world".

You question the reporting in a country, I do the same and you get upset.

Belgium has been among the top in every chart I've seen. I can't imagine those charts not having been reported on in Belgium.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by user_named » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:39 AM UTC

bdlowery wrote: post #88

Crazy that every nation other than china has had 3 big “waves” of Covid cases. Yet somehow china has only had the initial wave of Covid back in early 2020 and nothing else until now. Very strange.

China has had many, many outbreaks in the past two years but they've all been contained locally and haven't spread to the national level.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:40 AM UTC

ElectronShak wrote: post #104

I greatly empathize with anyone who lost a loved one to Covid over the past two years. Sorry for your loss. However, I do think that the reason we took lockdowns as a solution is because China did the same in the first place. But I don't think we should do that again. I will speak for myself, and I have no epic reason, I am just tired of it all.

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Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by user_named » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:40 AM UTC

wheresmycraisin wrote: post #110

"China is Entering Lockdown" seems like a massive overstatement. A couple of Tier 1 cities != China.

Sure. Not yet. But this is the direction it's going in because there is nothing stopping it. One or two weeks from now that will be clear.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by zarzavat » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:41 AM UTC

ElectronShak wrote: post #104

I greatly empathize with anyone who lost a loved one to Covid over the past two years. Sorry for your loss. However, I do think that the reason we took lockdowns as a solution is because China did the same in the first place. But I don't think we should do that again. I will speak for myself, and I have no epic reason, I am just tired of it all.

My recollection is slightly different. The west did not consider lockdowns a viable strategy until the news started to come out of Italy of the scale of the dead. China might have used lockdowns first but it was Italy that changed minds on their acceptability for western countries.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by user_named » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:41 AM UTC

hutzlibu wrote: post #99

user_named wrote: post #90

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Yes. I can say anything I like about Xi Jinping when I'm on HN. HN is blocked in China btw.

So you use a VPN/Tor and trust this connection? Are you sure, the thought of "getting caught" does not influence your opinions? Because I think, it would influence my opinions I would dare to share. But I am ignorant about actual way of life in china, is it common and maybe even somewhat normal for tech people to have this freedom to just connect outside of the great firewall?

I use a VPN. I do not really trust it but I do not really believe they would care what I write about there policies on HN.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:42 AM UTC

elric wrote: post #36

Only a thousand daily cases in a country with a population of 1G? That's either very impressive, or very impressively underreported. For comparison, Belgium currently has 10 times as many daily new cases, with a population that's 100 times smaller (and no lockdown).

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Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by throwaway73838 » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:42 AM UTC

The pandemic response globally has been a case study in what not to do. A perfect storm of misinformation and fear, plus a healthy dose of opportunism. Now the CDC is straight up withholding data in case we “misinterpret” it. [1]

[1] https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20220222/report-cdc-not-publ...

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by adastra22 » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:43 AM UTC

thematrixturtle wrote: post #100

fbrncci wrote: post #43

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They were very much in line with opening up the past month, but the past few days calls are getting louder to do something about the rising number of infections; along with the strain on the health care systems.

"They"? It's a whole bunch of independent countries with very different COVID policies, but virtually all are moving towards opening up, not locking down.

They tend to harmonize their policies by coordinating through ASEAN though. I don't know abut COVID specifically, however.

Re: Tell HN: China Is Entering Lockdown

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Post by user_named » Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 9:43 AM UTC

snovv_crash wrote: post #98

user_named wrote: post #71

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Hong Kong and mainland are totally different. Vaccination rate is very high here and you have been able to get booster shots for months. I agree with your second paragraph though.

I've heard this (and thought this myself), so many times regarding Covid - "Oh, that won't happen to us, we're different". Whether it was China, or Italy, or South Africa. At this point I don't think there's any way to actually stop Omicron, and we're very lucky it isn't more deadly.

What I'm saying is that mainland is nothing like hk when it comes to attitude and vaccination rates.