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Yeah, Casablanca is just a bunch of quotes strung together.
I think you mean "Hamlet" or was it "Macbeth". One of the two.
No, I didn't. That would be a slightly different joke.
Modern movies teach us awful lessons [video]
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#312ESG funds is the worst that had happened to the American entertaiment industry:
https://comicsgate.org/2021/10/30/ethan-van-sciver-is-right-...
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There was this film called "2001: A Space Odyssey". You won't be able to stand it.
The Gods Must Be Crazy has even less.
I watched the Gods Must Be Crazy recently... I don't recall any long drawn out scenes with no dialogue? But maybe I took a micronap.
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#314I think I agree with the thrust of the video. My caveats would be: 1) When anybody dunks on "modern movies", they mean "modern movies with $>100m marketing budgets". Which is actually a small minority of modern movies. 2) The messaging has changed, but movies have always had terrible messaging in them. Edit: Maybe it's a bad idea to say this out loud, but when you get protagonists who are "just born preternaturally a…
James Bond is as generically "the best at everything" as you can get. Whatever the villain is into, golf, fencing, gambling, etc. James Bond will challenge the villain at his hobby and beat him before the action even begins. Edited to add: But the biggest example is probably Superman, just born super at everything.
That's more a description of 20th century Bond than Craig-era Bond. Contemporary Bond is a traumatized alcoholic who only passes a medical because M fixes his results. IIRC In Casino Royale he crashes his DB5 and is captured by his nemesis, who proceeds to beat his genitals with a knotted rope. That sort of thing doesn't happen to Captain Marvel (or Roger Moore).
It's admittedly a while since I've followed anything to do with Superman. I'm imagining he's undergone a similar reinvention, but I admit I'm guessing.
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#315It's not a coincidence that all the main characters featured in this video are women. The main thing the filmmakers are trying to show is that these are girl-bosses who can do anything men can do (and more) and it's so important to show that with utter, relentless completeness, that they've created characters that are magical, who don't need to overcome anything, characters who matter mostly as individuals, who have…
Men are portrayed this way all the time. Why would portraying women this way get so much attention and concern?
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#316Another enormous gripe I have with modern movies, other than the (lack of) interesting moral lessons from OP, is the sound design. Loud explosions and music, with quiet, mumbled lines[1]. I'm forced to watch every movie with subtitles on, or to miss a good chunk of the dialogue. And I'd go beyond that, and blame the mumbled lines for our lack of interesting quotes. It's a lot harder to have unexpected turns of phrase…
> I'm forced to watch every movie with subtitles on
Me, too… but my kids say they can hear everything just fine and please turn off the subtitles. It’s possible we’re just getting old.
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#317It's not a coincidence that all the main characters featured in this video are women. The main thing the filmmakers are trying to show is that these are girl-bosses who can do anything men can do (and more) and it's so important to show that with utter, relentless completeness, that they've created characters that are magical, who don't need to overcome anything, characters who matter mostly as individuals, who have…
Have you seen the feminist reading of Mad Max: Fury Road? You might find it interesting. YouTube is not loading for me, but it's called "The avenging feminine": https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/9jzuci/bringing... My favorite part is something the essayist points out about the mothers [1] in Fury Road: They help in every fight. They shoot, they reload guns, they operate bolt cutters, they deny guns to enem…
Does it pass the Bechdel Test? I don't remember it well enough:
1. There are at least two women characters, with names and their own personalities (i.e., they aren't extras)
2. The women talk to each other
3. They talk to each other about something besides men.
(If you aren't familiar, an incredible number of films fail - and yes, the 'reverse Bechdel Test' (substituting men for women) is passed by almost every film.)
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I upvoted both you and Buldak because I'm certain there's something to what you're saying. Few things are monocausal or completely explained by one factor. And surely these modern filmmaking tropes feedback on themselves and reinforce prevailing styles. Mine isn't any kind of grand unifying theory. I just think it's a factor.
There's a little bit of gender role in there: Male assholes (ex: Rick from Rick and Morty, Nolan's Batman, Downy's Iron Man) are fun and interesting to watch. Female assholes are much, much harder to write (Amanda Waller, Suicide Squad, seems to be the best written one in recent films?) I guess there's explicitly "female" movies, like "Devil Wears Prada" where that kind of behavior is more acceptable (Miranda Priestl…
> You certainly can't just take male-oriented tropes and try to apply them to female-oriented characters.
Why do you say that? People don't, but they can. I've seen plenty of plays written for male leads but acted by females (e.g., Hamlet).
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Good memes rarely come from good writing.
"If I took off the mask, would you die?" "It would be extremely painful" "You're a big guy!" "For you." hmm, you're probably right.
That is the incredible acting, not the lines IMHO. Imagine Bane played by an average actor - what a corny, laughable display it might have been.
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#320ESG funds is the worst that had happened to the American entertaiment industry: https://comicsgate.org/2021/10/30/ethan-van-sciver-is-right-...
You’re blowing my mind.
“So, it’s all just government money?”
“Always has been.”
Click.