Modern movies teach us awful lessons [video]

Post by ratww » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 1:57 PM UTC

greggsy wrote: post #104

BoppreH wrote: post #24

Another enormous gripe I have with modern movies, other than the (lack of) interesting moral lessons from OP, is the sound design. Loud explosions and music, with quiet, mumbled lines[1]. I'm forced to watch every movie with subtitles on, or to miss a good chunk of the dialogue. And I'd go beyond that, and blame the mumbled lines for our lack of interesting quotes. It's a lot harder to have unexpected turns of phrase…

I’d wager that many engineers are still mixing for the cinema experience, but the vast majority of people are consuming media via their TV’s, laptops, tablets and phones, with an extremely diverse range of audio quality and placement. Findings a happy medium is incredibly difficult, if not impossible. There’s certainly a need for a ‘context aware’ format that can dynamically change the way sound - particularly speech…

Post by JKCalhoun » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 1:58 PM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #55

probably_wrong wrote: post #8

I think the video doesn't go deep enough: the problem is not that movies teach the wrong lessons, but rather that the movies are so hyper-optimized for engagement and ROI that there's no room for nuance. He may not like the newest Star Wars trilogy, but it nonetheless made a lot of money. That said, I think the author (and also me in the previous paragraph) uses the term "movies" to refer to "big budget movies", whic…

> uses the term "movies" to refer to "big budget movies", which are by no means the only movies out there They kinda are. Franchises have sucked all the air out of the room, and movies are given money on the premise that they will make money. Edit: not just money. But shit-tons of money that can be milked from multiple angles for many years. Already 10 years ago filmmakers were struggling to find funding for their pr…

Post by hwers » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 2:00 PM UTC

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #91

How much of “why modern X sucks” is attributable to survivorship bias? There were plenty of horrible movies/music/art/etc. made in years past; today, we only watch and remember the ones that were good enough to survive the test of time.

Post by Joeboy » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 2:03 PM UTC

unmole wrote: post #133

warabe wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I call that sort of "good" plots "character-oriented plot". One best example is Breaking Bad, which is not movie, but it is a great show anyway. The episode of Fly is a good example how well BB portrayed character's personality. with character-oriented plot, we have character first, and let them play drama. It is like having initial condition and seeing how things evolve in Ordinary Differential Equation. Everything…

> The episode of Fly is a good example how well BB portrayed character's personality. That was a pointless filler episode that only got made because they ran out of money.

Post by JKCalhoun » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 2:05 PM UTC

lordnacho wrote: post #103

For me the noticeable thing about modern movies is the pace. It's like something must happen all the time, if there isn't something moving or someone talking, it isn't a modern movie. I feel like been conditioned to not be able to watch older movies anymore, my brain is just like "huh why isn't something happening?".