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Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by zrav »

hughrr wrote: post #46

No. I have a 5550 which is I assume what the author is referring to. It’s garbage. Overheats constantly, the touchpad is dire, the screen has bad vignette around the edges, it’s noisy, the thing hard freezes when you plug it into a dock, the webcam only works 50% of the time you power it up and if you pick it up by the base it flexes so badly the touchpad clicks. The keyboard is also soggy as hell and the battery las…

Indeed. At $currentJob with 1k employees we use Dell laptops (currently Latitude 74xx series, Precision 75xx and 55xx). The 55 series has been the most problematic by far. The earlier generations broke down so frequently that we had to have ~50% of mainboards replaced, being completely bricked or with having the CPU frequency locked to 800Mhz being the most common causes. This has improved, now we "only" have overheating and ballooned batteries as frequent problems. Other than that they have the downside of having few ports and no 4G/5G modem. Despite we (IT) warning our employees, many still pick the model because it looks sleeker and is lighter than the 75 series (which has been excellent).

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by hughrr »

blindmute wrote: post #180
hughrr wrote: post #46

No. I have a 5550 which is I assume what the author is referring to. It’s garbage. Overheats constantly, the touchpad is dire, the screen has bad vignette around the edges, it’s noisy, the thing hard freezes when you plug it into a dock, the webcam only works 50% of the time you power it up and if you pick it up by the base it flexes so badly the touchpad clicks. The keyboard is also soggy as hell and the battery las…

I don't understand why Apple is the only company anywhere near their quality of laptop. I don't even care if it's MacBook expensive, I just want a laptop near as physically good as a MacBook, but with Linux and Windows support. Thinkpad doesn't really come close. Why is there no competition here?

I think everyone capable of pulling this off works at Apple.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by StopDarkPattern »

version_five wrote: post #156
perihelions wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think GP was referring to SuperFish, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424 ( "Lenovo Caught Installing Adware on New Computers" ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9074110 ( "Extracting the SuperFish certificate" ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9524536 ( "Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish" ) etc.

This seems to be a windows spyware, the OP refers specifically to hardware, and this discussion is about linux so I don't think he was referring to Superfish. Incidentally, the OP is troll account with -3 Karma so I think he was just trolling anyway, I didn't notice that when I first replied.

Yeah CCP shills do say that to those who oppose them ;)

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by mmmpop »

dasloop wrote: post #132
mmmpop wrote: post #9

I got one of the new 14" Macbook Pros recently and am extremely impressed by the build quality and no the whole no-more-touchbar. I don't feel as productive on it as I do my 3 year old Thinkpad X1 gen7 running Fedora, though. It's like a comfy sofa where as the Macbook is a desk chair.

And you can use multipass in the M1 to generate, for example, ARM64 docker images that you can run in a Graviton CPU. Win Win :)

Didn't know that, awesome!

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by krzyk »

ComradePhil wrote: post #174
rowanG077 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> First of all, Desktop linux barely works on the hardware it is designed to work on. Huh. I have been running linux on laptops for years and I don't even pick my laptops to run linux spefically. My last laptop was a surface pro and Linux ran with 0 issues and that is pretty esotoric hardware in the laptop space. > Let's say that because of some miracle, Linux becomes usable on M1 macs... The release of the first ver…

> I have been running linux on laptops for years and I don't even pick my laptops to run linux spefically. That is very surprising to me because I have owned 8 computers in the last 18 years; I have tried to run desktop Linux on all of them and I have yet to have an experience where I haven't had wide variety of issues with all of them. I have also yet to meet anyone who is happy with running Linux on their computers…

> I have also yet to meet anyone who is happy with running Linux on their computers, even those whose preferred desktop operating system is Linux (as is mine). The people I know were the happiest are those who ran it under Virtualbox as their main OS for work (while running the Virtualbox itself on macOS or Windows obviously) because then they only have to worry about it working on Virtualbox and even then they encounter issues all the time.

And yet there are millions of people that do run linux and like it (using virtual box to run linux is like licking lolipos covered with plastic). Sure there are sometimes issues, but in 90% of time it is for new hardware (and that is reduced nowadays - e.g. intel sends patches to kernel ahead of time) and my play with compiling new kernel versions :)

It is not a system for grannies (unless it was setup by someone else at the beginning - then it can be, I saw it used like one) - it is mostly system for powerusers, those that don't need to push alt/opt to show a hidden menu option.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by krzyk »

Shadonototra wrote: post #168
krzyk wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it run Linux?

it doesn't matter, it has a native unix environment i live in the terminal most of the time for my dev tasks, i even have a tilling window manager for everything else, i am glad macOS exists, applications are great, i get to use iOS apps too and everything is consistent and snappy, it stays cool, quiet, it never throttle on battery, things compiler super quick, and battery lasts super long laptop? apple won, i wouldn…

macos is specifically dumbed down for normal users, that don't want to be forced to see something complicated.

Can it run xmonad?

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by vernie »

throw872291 wrote: post #170
vernie wrote: post #136

Pfft MacBook? This 12 year old ThinkPad is great, you gotta believe me!

He doesn't pfft anything, that much is clear from the very first 2 paragraphs. Also this is from 2019, before M1. Next time, at least read a bit of the article.

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