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Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by vwoolf »

alkonaut wrote: post #149

What’s a good high perf laptop in 2022 that manages high load for hours (with power cable) without being noisy or overheating/throttling The Dell precisions I have had have been crappy with swelling batteries after a year or so of hard use. The current one has had two battery replacements with touchpad and keyboard replacement, within the warranty period. I just recently swapped the CPU fan. The last precision before…

Did you miss all the M1 MacBook Pro hoopla? https://hn.algolia.com/?q=macbook+pro+14%22

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by tedunangst »

mathematicaster wrote: post #143
hughrr wrote: post #46

No. I have a 5550 which is I assume what the author is referring to. It’s garbage. Overheats constantly, the touchpad is dire, the screen has bad vignette around the edges, it’s noisy, the thing hard freezes when you plug it into a dock, the webcam only works 50% of the time you power it up and if you pick it up by the base it flexes so badly the touchpad clicks. The keyboard is also soggy as hell and the battery las…

> No. Completely OT. Is the rhetoric of authority on the internet being fined tuned for superficial social media interaction? Vaguely reminds me by analogy the thumbnail engineering on youtube.

I rather prefer comments that telegraph agree or disagree. You can tell me all about how long you've had your laptop and what you do with it later, but start with the point.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by hbn »

thecrumb wrote: post #64

I'm tired of the 'thinner is better' progress of laptops. As a developer I want ports, I want more cooling so the fans don't run all the time. I want a laptop I can actually place on my lap without getting burned LOL. I love my old T420. Currently have P15 from work. Horrible layout because they crammed in a numpad so now the trackpad is offset to the left. If I had to buy a laptop myself I'd lean either to System76…

Well thankfully, Apple seems to have gone in that direction with the last MBP releases. And with them being the trendsetters they are, I wouldn't be surprised if other OEMs saw that as a green light to start putting out thicker laptops with decent ports again.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by kappattack »

Freak_NL wrote: post #83
ok_dad wrote: post #7

Maybe if you're considering the "major laptop manufacturers", but I prefer my System76 laptop any day, since it comes with Linux and they support it from the get-go. Also, they write a lot of nice software that makes the Linux ecosystem better; I love Pop_OS! and how I basically don't have to futz around with getting things to work but have the power of a Debian/Ubuntu variant so I can install other things easily. I…

I like System76, and my two previous work laptops came from them (both served me for over four years each; I only had to replace the last one due to a hard to diagnose RAM issue), but I can't recommend them to anyone outside of the US. By now they really should have gotten into bed with an EU distributor to handle warrantee, customs, and shipping, because it's just too costly and too much of a hassle to deal with Sys…

Curious - is your XPS13 touch screen or 4k? I called and they insisted the XPS13 only had 32GB RAM options for touch or 4k screens. I don't want either of those things, so im SOL i guess.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by perihelions »

version_five wrote: post #90
StopDarkPattern wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because everyone loves CCP sponsored back doors in their hardware. I am a solid pass on lenovo for life.

I don't think this is remotely credible. Without some evidence it's just scare mongering (although I find it hard to take anyone who automatically jumps to saying CCP when talking about China seriously) Anyway, as someone without even the remotest business or personal connections to China, if someone is spying on me I hope it's them, rather than someone who can actually impact my life

I think GP was referring to SuperFish,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424 ("Lenovo Caught Installing Adware on New Computers")

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9074110 ("Extracting the SuperFish certificate")

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9524536 ("Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish")

etc.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by version_five »

perihelions wrote: post #155
version_five wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is remotely credible. Without some evidence it's just scare mongering (although I find it hard to take anyone who automatically jumps to saying CCP when talking about China seriously) Anyway, as someone without even the remotest business or personal connections to China, if someone is spying on me I hope it's them, rather than someone who can actually impact my life

I think GP was referring to SuperFish, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9072424 ( "Lenovo Caught Installing Adware on New Computers" ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9074110 ( "Extracting the SuperFish certificate" ) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9524536 ( "Class action lawsuit filed against Lenovo over Superfish" ) etc.

This seems to be a windows spyware, the OP refers specifically to hardware, and this discussion is about linux so I don't think he was referring to Superfish.

Incidentally, the OP is troll account with -3 Karma so I think he was just trolling anyway, I didn't notice that when I first replied.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by ComradePhil »

qumpis wrote: post #88
Shadonototra wrote: post #29

i find it very hard to suggest an intel/amd laptop nowadays now that M1 macbooks exist.. M1 is a league on its own, everything else is just tech junk at this point

I'm very curious about counterpoint to this from a causal unix user perspective

The counter-point is it may be "unix" but it is not Linux and if you think it is, it will bite you in ways you don't expect (why does the sed command that works completely fine on Linux fails weirdly... oh because even though it is mostly the same sed except it is not really... it's the BSD sed from whenever Apple forked it).

The "package manager" brew is it's own thing because it is not first party, will never be and will conflict with your OS in unexpected ways when you least expect it.

And then, it's not even amd64. So, if you use docker for example, you have to remember to cross build for linux/amd64 if you are deploying to an amd64 server, which is much more likely than you deploying to arm64... and then, you have to run an emulated VM in the background for this purpose.

Do you rely on specific software/libraries? Well, you may read that it is supported now for M1, but you don't really know what bits aren't supported... and you may find that the hard way.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by ComradePhil »

krzyk wrote: post #137
Shadonototra wrote: post #29

i find it very hard to suggest an intel/amd laptop nowadays now that M1 macbooks exist.. M1 is a league on its own, everything else is just tech junk at this point

Does it run Linux?

First of all, Desktop linux barely works on the hardware it is designed to work on.

Let's say that because of some miracle, Linux becomes usable on M1 macs... and people start buying M1 macs to run Linux, Apple will have incentive to lock the bootloader (which they don't currently do) so that people are forced to run macOS only... because their profits does not come from the hardware itself but the "ecosystem" (a.k.a. vendor-lock-in) they have built around it.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by rowanG077 »

ComradePhil wrote: post #158
krzyk wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it run Linux?

First of all, Desktop linux barely works on the hardware it is designed to work on. Let's say that because of some miracle, Linux becomes usable on M1 macs... and people start buying M1 macs to run Linux, Apple will have incentive to lock the bootloader (which they don't currently do) so that people are forced to run macOS only... because their profits does not come from the hardware itself but the "ecosystem" (a.k.a…

> First of all, Desktop linux barely works on the hardware it is designed to work on.

Huh. I have been running linux on laptops for years and I don't even pick my laptops to run linux spefically. My last laptop was a surface pro and Linux ran with 0 issues and that is pretty esotoric hardware in the laptop space.

> Let's say that because of some miracle, Linux becomes usable on M1 macs...

The release of the first version of Linux on M1 mac is weeks away. With the only major things not working beeing the GPU and bluetooth.

> and people start buying M1 macs to run Linux, Apple will have incentive to lock the bootloader (which they don't currently do) so that people are forced to run macOS only... because their profits does not come from the hardware itself but the "ecosystem" (a.k.a. vendor-lock-in) they have built around it.

I don't follow this logic. Why would Apple first create more work for them to unlock the bootloader and build ways to load other Operating Systems to then take it back? Like do you think Apple likes to pay their engineers to play a prank on the Linux community? Or how do you envision this happened.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Post by sys_64738 »

thecrumb wrote: post #64

I'm tired of the 'thinner is better' progress of laptops. As a developer I want ports, I want more cooling so the fans don't run all the time. I want a laptop I can actually place on my lap without getting burned LOL. I love my old T420. Currently have P15 from work. Horrible layout because they crammed in a numpad so now the trackpad is offset to the left. If I had to buy a laptop myself I'd lean either to System76…

Judging by the new Mac Studio with those massive wind turbines, maybe Apple's next gen laptops will meet your expectations.
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