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Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Well, the Framework did come out since then. That's no small news in the linux laptop world

Anecdotal, a colleague of mine absolutely hated his to the point where he didn’t even sell it, it just ended up in a drawer until he’s calmed down enough to sort it out for sale >_<

No offense to your colleague, but if you get angry against a piece of tech to a point where you can't even stand to sell it, I think you have more issues than a bad laptop...

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#82
I recently bought an LG Gram 17" for use as a Linux developer laptop. So far, I'm absolutely delighted with it: huge 2560x1600 screen, fast, silent, hardly weighs a thing, decent battery life, Thunderbolt 4 and everything works in Ubuntu 22.04, without special drivers. Definitely worth a look.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

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Maybe if you're considering the "major laptop manufacturers", but I prefer my System76 laptop any day, since it comes with Linux and they support it from the get-go. Also, they write a lot of nice software that makes the Linux ecosystem better; I love Pop_OS! and how I basically don't have to futz around with getting things to work but have the power of a Debian/Ubuntu variant so I can install other things easily. I…

I like System76, and my two previous work laptops came from them (both served me for over four years each; I only had to replace the last one due to a hard to diagnose RAM issue), but I can't recommend them to anyone outside of the US. By now they really should have gotten into bed with an EU distributor to handle warrantee, customs, and shipping, because it's just too costly and too much of a hassle to deal with System76 with an ocean in between.

I'm using a Dell XPS 13 pre-loaded with Ubuntu now. I had to order it by telephone because the option to configure it with 32GB of RAM and Ubuntu wasn't available on their website (in this respect Dell really sucks with their localized web shop, but at least you can contact them within the EU), but no hassle with customs and shipping, and warrantee isn't limited to the US standard of one year by default, but the EU mandated standard of two years. If it breaks down, I can get a replacement within a week; that's just impossible with overseas commerce.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#84

This is from 2019, does not appear useful at all.

Have you seen any major changes between now and then? I looked for a linux developer laptop last year and ended up with a lenovo P1 after a previous bad experience (with power management) on an XPS13 (which I used while traveling - I don't travel now). I didn't see any other alternatives last year vs what he's discussing. I would love to hear if there are new competitive linux-friendly laptops out there now

Because everyone loves CCP sponsored back doors in their hardware. I am a solid pass on lenovo for life.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#85

I was assigned a Macbook Pro at work and I asked for a non-Mac laptop, reason being I'm a Linux developer and Macbook did not work well for me(keyboard,etc). I ended up with a XPS 15 that has 64GB DDR and 2TB PCIe NVMe SSD around $2750, comparing to 32GB+1TB of MacBook Pro it is about $800 less expensive. I did not realize Precision 55xx series is even better built than XPS15 otherwise I will probably go that route.…

I normally hate laptops but I had to buy one due to Covid and went with a Precision 7750. I didn't bother with a dedicated graphics card, and chose the minimum spec RAM and NVMe, but I did opt for the 4K display with WWAN for the 4G modem. I purchased 128GB RAM and a 2TB NVMe elsewhere and just put them in. Final cost was under £4k

It's actually quite decent. I'm not sure I can upgrade the modem to 5G though.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#86

5560 is one of my least favorite laptops ever. The trackpad is unnecessarily big that my hand routinely clicks it when typing. Also, it has driver issues: - on windows if you move the trackpad quickly and then click, it resets your cursor position -- I've lost work because of this bug: https://imgur.com/a/ibNObJ8 - on linux (tried in fedora) there's an unresolved issue with the kernel driver where randomly the accele…

> Also, it has driver issues: > - on windows if you move the trackpad quickly and then click, it resets your cursor position -- I've lost work because of this bug: https://imgur.com/a/ibNObJ8

This is actually part of the Windows Precision Touchpad functionality. I think “it’s a feature, not a bug.” I hate it too, but it’s definitely not exclusive to Dell.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#87
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No. I have a 5550 which is I assume what the author is referring to. It’s garbage. Overheats constantly, the touchpad is dire, the screen has bad vignette around the edges, it’s noisy, the thing hard freezes when you plug it into a dock, the webcam only works 50% of the time you power it up and if you pick it up by the base it flexes so badly the touchpad clicks. The keyboard is also soggy as hell and the battery las…

I was going to write exactly this.

I don’t know about Linux support since I have to use Windows on it but oh boy it is crap. The fans are always on whatever you do, the left part of the keyboard is frequently burning hot. Touchpad is mostly really good … when it works, because as soon as I wash my hands, it stops detecting anything. The audio part, at least on Windows, is pure random. USB docks randomly works and once a USB-C device is plugged in you are good for overheating near the connector.

For me it’s total garbage and I’m just waiting for it to die and my employer to change it for something better.

Our newest Dell laptops looks good but I’m never trusting this company again.

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#88

i find it very hard to suggest an intel/amd laptop nowadays now that M1 macbooks exist.. M1 is a league on its own, everything else is just tech junk at this point

I'm very curious about counterpoint to this from a causal unix user perspective

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#89

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Shallow dismissal. Don’t assume everyone lives in the same year as you.

Huh? Are others time travellers?

Technologically, it can be cheaper to live a couple years back. Look at all these first gen iPhone SE's for about $100.

https://buy.gazelle.com/collections/iphone-se

Re: Linux Developer Laptops: Dell's Precision 5500 series reigns supreme (2019)

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen any major changes between now and then? I looked for a linux developer laptop last year and ended up with a lenovo P1 after a previous bad experience (with power management) on an XPS13 (which I used while traveling - I don't travel now). I didn't see any other alternatives last year vs what he's discussing. I would love to hear if there are new competitive linux-friendly laptops out there now

Because everyone loves CCP sponsored back doors in their hardware. I am a solid pass on lenovo for life.

I don't think this is remotely credible. Without some evidence it's just scare mongering (although I find it hard to take anyone who automatically jumps to saying CCP when talking about China seriously)

Anyway, as someone without even the remotest business or personal connections to China, if someone is spying on me I hope it's them, rather than someone who can actually impact my life

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