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Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Oh is that so? It will be interesting to see if I end up in FB jail over this one. The kinder way to say this is "May the people of Russia remove the blots of tyranny staining their flag." Also the classic one person's freedom fighter is another's terrorist.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Which is, at the very least, questionable. And risky, because it gives Russia a potential reason to claim "the West" encouraged terrorism against Russia and Russians. At the very least this makes Russian propaganda efforts so much easier...

> because it gives Russia a potential reason to claim

You have to stop worrying about that. They're still saying they've not invaded Ukraine. They're bombing pregnant mothers in hospitals and claiming they're nazis.

Russia will just make up stuff no matter what.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Didn't Russia already ban Facebook? What's the point of this legal game?

Here in Russia it's a total clusterfuck at this point. 1) Roscomnadzor bans Twitter in Russia. 2) Russian embassy posts on Twitter claiming Mariupol hospital bombing was faked. It's like: Should we ban Twitter in Russia? Yes. Should we keep posting Russian propaganda on Twitter? Also yes.

What would happen if Twitter banned Russia in response to being banned…

Good or bad decision?

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

#125

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Do you have any evidence that the biolabs in Ukraine were performing research that was oriented towards being usable as a weapon? Like what exactly is the claim here about that those labs were doing? Or do you just think any biolab should automatically be assumed to be working on bioweapons? (And that we should ban all biolabs worldwide I guess?)

I think there was a release of docs about using humanized migratory birds to carry disease to specific places. Possibly as a blurred line between studying such mechanisms for defense as opposed to offense. I can’t speak to accuracy of such claims but it does appear that info is being released.

The repetition of unsourced claims without any links really isn't the most useful for online discussion. Especially for claims as wild as this.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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I think principles went out the window when both the new generation and journalists decided: "You can't stay still on a moving train." I.e., everything is biased, no one is objective, and no platform can be objective because everything has an implicit position (even no position is a position). In other words, a very postmodern "no objective truth can be obtained" take. So yes, the rational, logical next step is loose…

I find it fascinating that people believe that there was ever an unbiased, objective news media. This literally has never been the case in the total history of the industry. Journalists are paid to contextualize the data they find, not to regurgitate it.

Civics and history education (at least in the US, I dunno about elsewhere) is astonishingly, dangerously bad. Is the reason these notions are so common, I think.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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Call for violence is against Russian soldiers invading Ukraine* I think that additional context is critical

Do they allow call for violence and death threats to these people ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisone... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings Asking for a friend

This is some very whatabouty whataboutism.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

#129
post #26

Persecution complex is in high gear in Russian media, they obviously aren't going to give the full context of Facebook's position. But if you are western in this site or Russian curious enough to be here, let's drop the idea that it's all Russophobia and Westerners hating all Russians. No one here believes you and it's all seemed pretty clear that everything is happening strictly in response to what is happening in U…

It’s amazing to me, because at this point I probably would not be able to tell the difference between a Ukrainian and a Russian if I met one for the first time and there was no speaking involved.

Re: Russia opens criminal investigation of Meta over death calls on Facebook

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If you need to change your platform's rules for literally every major event (elections, Covid, this war) there is something profoundly wrong both with your rules and your platform. There is tremendous value in having actual principles. So many people either forgotten it or never understood that to begin with.

Feel free to suggest different rules. Start with the publicly accessible “Community Standards” and edit it to the point where they are consistent and comprehensive in your book with no special cases. We’ll wait. In reality what you might find is that even some obvious rules like “no naked pictures of obvious minors (<10 years) should be allowed” have exceptions to it. And if you can’t reason why this is true (I’m thi…

I don't necessarily disagree with your larger point, but I don't think the picture you're thinking of is actually worth making a hypothetical exception for, FWIW. The genre of which it is a member is censored regularly on all platforms. Just be consistent and point to the rules and live with the ridicule.
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