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If your vehicle is heading relentlessly toward a group of schoolchildren it would be nice to have a way to override it. Either that or no windows so you won't be haunted by it every night of your life.
We have the technology to replace schoolchildren at a much lower cost than cars
The average human is often too busy texting, or eating to pay attention.
Humans do very stupid things in cars, it's a part of why I won't really consider living anywhere where I have to own one. Holy crap, you'll see people literally just rear-end each other at stoplights because you want to keep itching closer.
One of the most common complaints about automated cars is they go The speed limit, I recall once I was literally at the exact speed limit for the highway and I flicked on the cruise control. Immediately a driver behind me started honking and flicking me off.
Like holy shit I'm not from around here. I'm not going to risk getting pulled over because you're 5 minutes late to brunch or something.
The average human is such a horrible driver. I don't think Tesla bots can do much worse. The times the Tesla AI fails are very rare and far between, the times some idiot human decides they're going to rear end someone, or change lanes to late are very common.
All hell the robocar overlords
This will never fly in Europe. So the cars will have both system regardless
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Car accidents kill someone every 100 million miles driven in the US. Anyone claiming they're safer now is either selling something or doesn't know what they're talking about.
Could you share how many accidents happen, rather than deaths? With a source as well, if you happen to be looking it up.
I figure deaths per million miles is a good stat
I think any automated vehicle, no matter how advanced, should always have a big red button to make it stop whatever it's doing. Kind of like the emergency brake on a passenger train.
Logically there needs to be a way to control the car at all times, otherwise you could be locked into a long trip you don’t want to take. The difference is just that it’s higher level controls than a steering wheel.
No steering wheels or brake pedals! Feels scary but we are giving technology way more control over our lives already :-).
After removing the steering wheel and making the car fully autonomous, I bet you'll have to pay a subscription for it to drive. And a subscription for a cellular service.
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“Self driving” means that it is far more likely for a human driver to override the car in panic and hit the children than it is for the car to hit the children autonomously.
IF the car does hit the children even while driving autonomously the driver will be held responsible regardless of overrides. If someone dies, someone is going to jail until the justice system works through it.
Reading between the lines here this just makes me think that the regulator has become captured by the industry. This is like removing human control on an autonomous Russian roulette revolver that shoots to the side if it detects a person in front of the barrel, then praying for the best.
I find it rather fascinating that we require a human-in-the-loop for a train but not for a car.
This Wikipedia article kind of shows the mishmash of automated/half-measures/full measures situation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automation_of_the_London_Under...
I think any automated vehicle, no matter how advanced, should always have a big red button to make it stop whatever it's doing. Kind of like the emergency brake on a passenger train.
I'd like to imagine we'd have "manual override" controls like I, Robot (2004) showed: https://youtube.com/shorts/46-EGyn7rwc As implied in the clip, after a few years of self-driving cars, most passengers won't know how to drive well enough for it to be safe and other autonomous vehicles might not coordinate well with a manual driver. A "pull over" button could work, but still relies on the automated driving capabili…
With the presence of an automation kill-switch and manual human controls the driver can always take back control.
Without those, the driver is at the mercy of the hacker.
Vehicle automation falls under the SCADA sub-domain of cyber-security. SCADA stands for Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition, and the cyber-security in SCADA systems is light-years behind. Pro-tip: going into cyber and want a good certification (if such a thing exists)..then get CISSP-SCADA.
Some relevant articles:
[1] https://physicsworld.com/a/how-to-hack-a-self-driving-car/
[2] https://hackernoon.com/how-to-hack-self-driving-cars-vulnera...
[3] https://blog.tesu.edu/should-we-be-worried-about-the-hacking...