Seems like every year Twitter does something I’d hate during Lent. I wonder if their users drop off noticeably and they panic or if they know it is coming.
Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed
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Hotels don’t make money if you stay in the room, it actually costs them money in terms of electricity. But they do want you to spend money so they might indeed do things such as banning outside food deliveries or making the basin un-pluggable so that you can’t do your own laundry. There was a case a few years ago where a Marriott got fined for blocking outside wifi. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/03/mar…
>Hotels don’t make money if you stay in the room, it actually costs them money in terms of electricity. No, them renting the room to you - when you'll usually be out of it most of the day - is absolutely how they make money. Maybe in Las Vegas the room rate is a loss leader but your average business hotel is 100% making their profit on the room.
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Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hotels don’t make money if you stay in the room, it actually costs them money in terms of electricity. But they do want you to spend money so they might indeed do things such as banning outside food deliveries or making the basin un-pluggable so that you can’t do your own laundry. There was a case a few years ago where a Marriott got fined for blocking outside wifi. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/03/mar…
>Hotels don’t make money if you stay in the room, it actually costs them money in terms of electricity. No, them renting the room to you - when you'll usually be out of it most of the day - is absolutely how they make money. Maybe in Las Vegas the room rate is a loss leader but your average business hotel is 100% making their profit on the room.
That's my kind of hotel, just a business that makes their money on exactly what the fuck it looks like they're making the money on.
I once stayed at a place that had super, super cheap refreshment rates on the mini-fridge. Cheaper if you got them at a store obviously, but not punishing like most other hotels, less than double the supermarket rate. Guess what? I made them tons of money, it was super convenient, I didn't go out of my way to avoid them.
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#134They've been battling the widespread preference for chronological timeline for ... well, forever. As the common belief goes, the "algorithmic" one is more profitable. I buy this, intuitively, because it seems natural that it'd be harder to sneak in something jarring if you were viewing a more traditional timeline. But I can't fathom why seemingly no effort has gone into monetizing a chronological timeline. Why is it'…
> They've been battling the widespread preference for chronological timeline Or the simpler explanation is that the chronological timeline isn't actually the preferred setting, outside of a small but vocal minority. If the chronological timeline is somehow hurting their profitability, why would they offer it at all? I think the more obvious explanation is that very few people were actually using it according to their…
That’s a possible explanation.
However I’ve heard of very few people that prefer the algorithmic feed on Twitter, might be a bubble effect though.
The big part is time spent I think. I see the same thing with Instagram: I have about 120 accounts that I follow, mostly friends of mine.
I check the feed once a day and after 5 minutes I’m done.
But I also know quite a lot of people that spend hours on Instagrams explore page and with reels.
With your own carefully curated list there is a limited amount of content you can consume, until you inevitably leave the app.
But as you can see with TikTok or Instagram people spend hours on algorithmic feeds.
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#135Just use Twitter's lists. I've been using them for a long time. I added to one of my lists only the accounts that I really want to see on my feed (no old school friends, acquaintances, nor random people that some of the accounts I follow just started following: only sources with added value). The result? Open your list, and you'll see all the tweets sorted chronologically, only from the accounts you really care to fo…
The one feature I wish Twitter lists had is turning off retweets by account in a list. Currently, a retweet-generous account will pollute the entire list. You can turn off retweets only for accounts you actually follow, and it applies only to your main timeline, not the lists.
Re: Twitter makes it harder to choose the old reverse-chronological feed
#136Seems like every year Twitter does something I’d hate during Lent. I wonder if their users drop off noticeably and they panic or if they know it is coming.
I always imagine their user counts are quite low compared to other social media.
Where I live I’m quite the outlier for using Twitter, very few people use it. Most that do work in tech.
Is that different in other parts of the world? Is Twitter mainstream social media that almost everyone you know has?
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#137Jesus. They should go and fix elementary stuff like search first - try searching "from:@accountname keyword", and it will usually take five to ten attempts until you find that tweet from three years ago - before they introduce shit that the users don't fucking want.
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> a good test of when social networks turn the corner and become evil is ... when they are created. Social networks are inherently evil, that's their business model: manipulate users into addiction and serve ads. How do non-evil social networks look like? They're forums, plain old forums. But you don't become an ultra trillionaire with PhpBB.
When I joined FB there were no ads and a chronological feed and everything was awesome. Reddit was awesome. Nowadays they are an evil manipulation mess, but I don't think it is an inherit property of social networks.
Phase 1: user acquisition.
Phase 2: profit (through using and abusing their users).
Both steps are written in stone in their business plan on day 1, you just don't know it.
As a user you were still in phase 1.
Similar story with image hosting websites. First they don't have ads and load fast and don't really have image restrictions. Then they start adding restrictions and ads.
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Don't forget IKEA. I went the other day just to look at a dining table. It was only in the 3rd or 4th showroom. Of course, to get out I had to wander through the majority of like 13 or 14 other showrooms because you pretty much can only take the linear path to get to an exit.
Generally Ikea stores have a few shortcuts, but you usually have to pay attention to find them.
I heard from a friend that they're only there for IKEA staff to get around the store faster. I'm sure IKEA would otherwise do away with them.
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#140I hate Twitter for all the change they've made-more spam and useless engagement features. I noticed this in testing some time ago, constantly making it hard just to see what I want, not the Algo suggested tweets, other peoples likes, spam etc. Every tech company is going down the same route, spam and advertising until they force power users away in disgust. Just this week I've had the same annoying random Chinese lan…
> Just this week I've had the same annoying random Chinese language influencer advert force shown to me on Youtube You are lucky! I obviously share IP at home with my children, but how is my 13 years old daughter getting disgusting commercials (all in Portuguese for some reason??) of "Manscape" products, women's "spray everywhere even there" deodorant, some soap where interracial couple does everything other than THA…
Going by how creepy advert tracking is now I'd read between the algorithms and figure it's time to talk to the child about body changes
Hypothesis: Ads are related to browsing habits, your kid's asking questions