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Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

#191
Sadly, being anti-Russian has become the new green.

Russian's are humans too and deserve as much respect and consideration as every other nationality.

Remember, next time your race / religion / sexual orientation/ nationality might be the one being demonised, simply because someone powerful can make money out of having the masses hate you.

Resist the urge to give into mindless hatred and jingoism.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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It's going to be really awkward when this is all over and big tech has to pivot back to when nationalism, strong borders, private firearm ownership, and armed neo-nazi militias[0] were all bad things. [0] https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba...

https://web.archive.org/web/20220310213449if_/https//www.reu...

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Doesn't it become difficult to tell the difference when the message from the platform is approximately: "rage is permitted in the direction of foreign nationals from these two nations from 9am to 9pm tomorrow"?

No, it just makes me think I don’t understand their policy. I don’t suddenly start thinking thoughts of rage only between 9am and 9pm.

I don't really understand the policy either. I'll respond again tomorrow during a scheduled "thoughtful response time window".

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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We need to get rid of the illusion that WW3 isn’t happening already. I would rather die standing up for my freedom so that me, my family, my children — you — can live in a free world with no warmongering dictators, than cower and live in fear, which the West is collectively doing. So yes, it is not a good reason.

> We need to get rid of the illusion that WW3 isn’t happening already. Checks outside. No, WW3 definitely isn't already happening. > with no warmongering dictators So, once Putin is dealt with, you're headed off to depose the Saudi and Emirati regimes?

Once they start invading (erghm I mean performing special operations) other countries, sure. Add China to that list as well.

I asked my relatives to show me outside and it certainly does look like WW3 in Kyiv and Kharkiv.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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"All hate is hate, but some hate is more hate than others." -- Hypocrite Valley

I would love to see a rise of alternative BigTech (FB, Google, Apple, Microsoft). Not the Parlor kind, but more leaning towards libertarian values and the foundational principles of the United States. Perhaps based in the East Coast: Philadelphia, Chicago or Boston.

> Not the Parlor kind, but more leaning towards libertarian values and the foundational principles of the United States.

Yes, but as noted by Scott Alexander:

The moral of the story is: if you’re against witch-hunts, and you promise to found your own little utopian community where witch-hunts will never happen, your new society will end up consisting of approximately three principled civil libertarians and seven zillion witches. It will be a terrible place to live even if witch-hunts are genuinely wrong.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/05/01/neutral-vs-conservativ...

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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post #184

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> We need to get rid of the illusion that WW3 isn’t happening already. Checks outside. No, WW3 definitely isn't already happening. > with no warmongering dictators So, once Putin is dealt with, you're headed off to depose the Saudi and Emirati regimes?

Once they start invading (erghm I mean performing special operations) other countries, sure. Add China to that list as well. I asked my relatives to show me outside and it certainly does look like WW3 in Kyiv and Kharkiv.

> erghm I mean performing special operations

So, the Saudis haven't been bombing Yemen since 2015? I mean it's only a conflict that resulted in the deaths of over 100,000 people. One would think that would cause more outrage.

> it certainly does look like WW3 in Kyiv and Kharkiv.

But somehow it wasn't WW3 when it happened to Herat or Aleppo or Halabja or Hargeisa or Burao or Grozny.

It's almost as if an isolated conflict and a world war are different.

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War makes unlikely alliances. If you're fighting for the existence of your country you're not going to say no to the help of nazis. And if you're using the biggest social media platform on the planet to organize that war, you're going to want your allies on it. What you've just discovered is that a unified policy across the entire world isn't actually the right policy. In one country you may want to ban some stuff yo…

I just hope no one ever uses the catchy rule of thumb that"if 9 people sit around a table with 1 nazi, there are 10 nazis around that table" again seriously after this haha. It's that not even 1 month ago if one person at a protest had a nazi flag everyone protesting there was also labeled a nazi. But you got NATO publicly glorifying soldiers with literal nazi insignia (the black sun) and that's just being the good g…

Was Russia invading that protest at the time?

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Not surprisingly, this is a heavily editorialised headline, moderately so on HN and more-so on Reuters. The actual content states (emphasis mine): ...temporarily allowing some posts that call for death to Russian President *Vladimir Putin* or Belarusian President *Alexander Lukashenko* in *countries including Russia, Ukraine and Poland*... There's a massive difference between calling for the death of your Russian nei…

Did you miss the previous paragraph? >Meta Platforms (FB.O) will allow Facebook and Instagram users in some countries to call for violence against Russians and Russian soldiers in the context of the Ukraine invasion People here are upset by "russians", which could conceivably mean russian civilians.

From Meta:

> "We still won't allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians"

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It's ridiculous to assume that "I hate my neighbor and am going to kill him" and "there's a Russian army invading my city, we should set up an ambush" should be held to the same standard of speech. Of course, a larger question is whether Facebook should be the arbiter for this in the first place, but then the content is posted on their own private platform, and unlike a lot of people here I still think they should ha…

It's 2003, the US and UK invade Iraq claiming that they have WMD(which later was proven to be false). Is it O.K. for Facebook to allow call for violence against Americans and the British? Should Facebook provide secure channel for the organisation of the assassination of T. Blair? Zuckerberg moved by the struggle of the Palestinians, starts allowing Hamas to organize attacks through E2E encrypted channel on Israeli s…

Nicholson Baker wrote a novel envisioning the assassination of G.W. Bush. I don't know that it went anywhere, but as far as I know he has never been bothered by the law.
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