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Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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>Emails also showed that Meta would allow praise of the right-wing Azov battalion, which is normally prohibited, in a change first reported by The Intercept. So it's ok to praise literal neo-Nazis now, as long as it lines up with business and political interests? Someone less cynical than me, please explain.

American legislatures are full of neo-nazi's

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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I'm so glad US private tech corporations tell me what to think.

Are they? Or are they telling you what you can/can’t share on their platform?

Doesn't it become difficult to tell the difference when the message from the platform is approximately: "rage is permitted in the direction of foreign nationals from these two nations from 9am to 9pm tomorrow"?

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I do not think he would give a flying fuck about zone. And if planes will be downed he will have to answer and the war starts. Russia's army can not hope to win conventional conflict with NATO and is ruled by a rabid man at the top. the only thing it can do in response is to use nukes. After that say goodbye to a world.

I think it stands a better chance of keeping us OUT of a NATO conflict then starting one.. Violating a no-fly zone requires authorization, and hopefully thought.. Whereas, right now, we're simply waiting for a bomb to mistakenly land on the wrong side of a border. No thought, no intention, no authorization...just one of those things that happen during war. I think this is a much more likely outcome.

>"Violating a no-fly zone requires authorization, and hopefully thought.."

Putin did not sign for no flying zone. For him it is not a violation and as much as I hate this maniac he is under no obligation to respect NATO laws on non NATO territory.

Violating Ukraine the way he did required way more than "hopefully thought" and yet it did not stop him.

I think that no-fly zone is a guarantee to get nuked.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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"not starting the ww3" is not a good reason?

We need to get rid of the illusion that WW3 isn’t happening already. I would rather die standing up for my freedom so that me, my family, my children — you — can live in a free world with no warmongering dictators, than cower and live in fear, which the West is collectively doing. So yes, it is not a good reason.

> We need to get rid of the illusion that WW3 isn’t happening already.

Checks outside. No, WW3 definitely isn't already happening.

> with no warmongering dictators

So, once Putin is dealt with, you're headed off to depose the Saudi and Emirati regimes?

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they? Or are they telling you what you can/can’t share on their platform?

Doesn't it become difficult to tell the difference when the message from the platform is approximately: "rage is permitted in the direction of foreign nationals from these two nations from 9am to 9pm tomorrow"?

No, it just makes me think I don’t understand their policy.

I don’t suddenly start thinking thoughts of rage only between 9am and 9pm.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Sometimes I think what would happen if China invades Taiwan? Would FB and IG still allow calls for violence against Chinese? I am pretty sure many people will change their tunes when it comes to China, similar to what happened regarding COVID.

FB and IG already don't operate in China. Out of all the big tech companies, I would think that FB would have the least issue with standing up to China. Not necessarily saying they would. I don't know enough. But they certainly have a lot less conflict of interest.

There's a sizable number of Chinese internet users that regularly use American social media even though none of them formally operate there.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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post #183

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I think it stands a better chance of keeping us OUT of a NATO conflict then starting one.. Violating a no-fly zone requires authorization, and hopefully thought.. Whereas, right now, we're simply waiting for a bomb to mistakenly land on the wrong side of a border. No thought, no intention, no authorization...just one of those things that happen during war. I think this is a much more likely outcome.

>"Violating a no-fly zone requires authorization, and hopefully thought.." Putin did not sign for no flying zone. For him it is not a violation and as much as I hate this maniac he is under no obligation to respect NATO laws on non NATO territory. Violating Ukraine the way he did required way more than "hopefully thought" and yet it did not stop him. I think that no-fly zone is a guarantee to get nuked.

I wasn't aware it was up to Putin..

But assuming your logic is correct, we're screwed anyway. Putin has always wanted to rebuild the USSR. He's annexed territory in the past, he's attempting to annex it now, and he'll attempt it again in the future.. So at some point, someone's gonna push the button..

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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It's going to be really awkward when this is all over and big tech has to pivot back to when nationalism, strong borders, private firearm ownership, and armed neo-nazi militias[0] were all bad things. [0] https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba...

War makes unlikely alliances. If you're fighting for the existence of your country you're not going to say no to the help of nazis. And if you're using the biggest social media platform on the planet to organize that war, you're going to want your allies on it. What you've just discovered is that a unified policy across the entire world isn't actually the right policy. In one country you may want to ban some stuff yo…

Ukraine's war is literally a dispute about what one country's policy should be.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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War makes unlikely alliances. If you're fighting for the existence of your country you're not going to say no to the help of nazis. And if you're using the biggest social media platform on the planet to organize that war, you're going to want your allies on it. What you've just discovered is that a unified policy across the entire world isn't actually the right policy. In one country you may want to ban some stuff yo…

How should Facebook adjust policies on a country by country basis? Should Facebook ban content on homosexuality or marijuana use in countries where those things are illegal?

Of course they do.

Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

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Even though a no-fly zone would certainty imply a warning of violence, it is not in itself an act of violence when established only in the airspace of a willing nation to the detriment of an aggressor. Russia has no inalienable right to fly over Ukrainian territory. I am not a supporter of the no-fly zone request from Ukraine, and it would almost certainty escalate the situation to the point of NATO being at war with…

>I am not a supporter of the no-fly zone request from Ukraine, and it would almost certainty escalate the situation to the point of NATO being at war with Russia. However, it would be theoretically possible for the no-fly zone to be imposed without a single Russian plane being shot down—all Russia would have to do is to cease flying over Ukraine. Why not go further? Why stop at the air? Why not make the whole country…

Ah, you get it. Russia should do that, go back into their own border.

Of course, withdrawing all russian military from Ukraine would take days. Declaring a no-fly zone is faster and a good start.

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