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Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Does the meat every get exercised with electric current or anything? Can you make it bigger that way like real muscle..

There are different approaches of helping the engineered muscle tissue to mature, one being electrical stimulation. It's an interesting idea to use it to increase the volume, but the effect of very high stimulation on texture has to be considered as well!

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

#102
I am very excited about the prospect of cultivated meat. It just makes so much more ethical, environmental and eventually economic sense. This innovation seems inevitable, but someone still has to figure out all the details. Sounds like you have some great insights.

I am rooting for you!

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

#103
> After researching the impact the livestock industry has on our planet, I knew I wanted to get involved to stop it.

I applaud the desire to help humanity eat healthier and saner amounts of meat, but...

I remain unconvinced that creating relatively resource-intensive fake meats is better than using highly efficient non-animal meat[0]. Most people won't eat either one unless they have no choice, but if it comes to that one thing is much better for the planet than the other. And if it doesn't come to that, we're gonna burn the planet to ashes for our McRibs.

Isn't the real solution to eat less meat, as opposed to eating more fake meat?

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetia_illucens#As_human_foo...

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You did, though, it's right in your comment: "excuse to not change their behavior today." And no, plant-based meat isn't there yet. It's something I often choose myself for environmental reasons, but it's still strictly worse than real beef. And non-ground meat substitutes aren't even in the ballpark.

I'd bet you a lot of money that most people can't make out an Impossible burger vs. a beef burger in a blind taste. Tasting has to do a lot with psychology (see Pepsi vs. Coke blind tastes), and that's why people think plant-based meat sucks (there's a big variance in quality, agreed). Lab-grown meat won't change this fact.

We're at the point of disagreeing over opinion, but I'm pretty confident you'd lose that bet :) I say this as someone who usually orders the Impossible option. It is the first plant-based meat I've had that actually crosses the threshold into "good enough," but it's still noticeably inferior to a good beef burger. Most plant-based meats genuinely do suck, I prefer just forgoing those and doing a mostly-vegetarian diet, personally.

I think lab-grown meat has a much better chance than plant-based meats of satisfying the "want" of meat, while drastically lowering the environmental effects of eating meat. And again, I think pursuing both options is the best choice. I eat less meat thanks to Impossible, and I hope they continue to succeed.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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post #103

> After researching the impact the livestock industry has on our planet, I knew I wanted to get involved to stop it. I applaud the desire to help humanity eat healthier and saner amounts of meat, but... I remain unconvinced that creating relatively resource-intensive fake meats is better than using highly efficient non-animal meat[0]. Most people won't eat either one unless they have no choice, but if it comes to tha…

I think many people would rather burn the planet down than eat fly larvae.

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post #103

> After researching the impact the livestock industry has on our planet, I knew I wanted to get involved to stop it. I applaud the desire to help humanity eat healthier and saner amounts of meat, but... I remain unconvinced that creating relatively resource-intensive fake meats is better than using highly efficient non-animal meat[0]. Most people won't eat either one unless they have no choice, but if it comes to tha…

The problem, as a vegetarian of something like 4 years, is that meat is really bloody tasty. Simply put, it's extremely nice to eat.

So rather than a future where we all eat flies or tofu or lentils or seitan or something if we can make a dent in the impact of animal agriculture while catering for the increase in meat eating in Asia then it's a good thing.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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1) We have already created our first piece of edible pork using our method! 2) ATKearney in their article "How will cultured meat and meat alternatives disrupt the agricultural and food industry?" estimates that about 10% of global meat consumption could be switched over to cultivated meat around 2030. While 10% is low, I think you'll start seeing restaurant experiences start cropping up more and more over the next 3…

> Good Food Institute is estimating that about 10% of global meat consumption could be switched over to cultivated meat around 2030. While 10% is low 10% in the next 8 years seems very impressive to me. Do you have a link to the report? I searched but their State of the Industry report has a question mark instead of a date https://gfi.org/resource/cultivated-meat-eggs-and-dairy-stat...

10% of the global meat market is around 30 million metric tons per year. What are we currently at?

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) We have already created our first piece of edible pork using our method! 2) ATKearney in their article "How will cultured meat and meat alternatives disrupt the agricultural and food industry?" estimates that about 10% of global meat consumption could be switched over to cultivated meat around 2030. While 10% is low, I think you'll start seeing restaurant experiences start cropping up more and more over the next 3…

> 5) We have not tasted it yet, but we will very soon! You need double blind taste tests. It doesn't matter if cultured meat is good for the planet, if Joe Sixpack won't eat cultured meat because it tastes bad or has weird non-meat properties and textures, then your product will get no traction

Beyond and Impossible is doing well. Like solar, replacement would be harder sale. Focus on uniqueness, specific use cases probably better.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

#110

Beyond Meat is down close to 70% this year. I wouldn't be to optimistic that folks want to eat fake meat. It's clear they aren't selling in the grocery stores.

Beyond Meat is not meat though. It's not even close in taste.

I would argue that the problem is Beyond Meat is only kinda close in taste. Impossible meat is getting good reception because it's so close in taste (and I actually prefer it), and lots of other veggie burgers are doing okay because they fill the same use but aren't going for exactly the same flavor. Beyond Meat is almost in the uncanny valley of beef flavor.
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