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Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by samstave »

samstave wrote: post #55

Some future Black Mirror comments on this concept: You haven't paid your protein bill this month, thus your micormeat subscription has been suspended and your Meat Machine (TM) will no longer grow any new meat for you. We have given our executives and shareholders an exceptional return on their investments, and with your lack of being able to pay your Protein Bill, our record profits are hurting, Your account has bee…

Oh good! I got downvoted!

Alright, MF'rs - I apploud everything about this busniss.. but lets talk long term:

The stem cells are from which organism?

Where did they come from?

---I have an aside from a hospital at UCSF Dog Patch was researching how to express stem cells to a particular tissue.

I watched this machine in fucking person...

Where did stem cells come from?

There will be a black market in ~15 years for stem-call based organs that originate in non human sources.

There will be a bio-ID using the foundation f CRISPR to "digitally sign the origin of the DNA manufactured by this system" -- wait until you have digitally assigned, approved and allotted genes in a hemogonist platform of Micro-meats.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by rs999gti »

vpribble wrote: post #40
Nathanael_M wrote: post #31

Wow, I have so many questions. First, I really respect people acting on conviction. Anyway, I have lots of questions (all completely uninformed) so feel free to ignore any of them, haha. 1) Where are you in the development process? Have your scaffolds been used to successfully grow a piece of edible meat? 2) When do you think the value of cultivated meat will grow to a point to make the industry self-sustaining? Or e…

1) We have already created our first piece of edible pork using our method! 2) ATKearney in their article "How will cultured meat and meat alternatives disrupt the agricultural and food industry?" estimates that about 10% of global meat consumption could be switched over to cultivated meat around 2030. While 10% is low, I think you'll start seeing restaurant experiences start cropping up more and more over the next 3…

> 5) We have not tasted it yet, but we will very soon!

You need double blind taste tests. It doesn't matter if cultured meat is good for the planet, if Joe Sixpack won't eat cultured meat because it tastes bad or has weird non-meat properties and textures, then your product will get no traction

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by vpribble »

kuida0r3 wrote: post #64

Does the scaffold you use become dissolved during processing, or are edible and incorporated into a final product?

Great question: part of the scaffold will dissolve, part of it (edible materials) will be in the final product. The amount of it in the final product (basically the degradation kinetics) can be tuned depending on needs and desires

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by pseudolus »

Great idea whose time has come. Some have estimated that up to 41% of land in the US is used for grazing and growing feed [0]. That's a horrible and damaging waste of resources.

One small suggestion, although you've included your contact info with your launch information, you might also want to include a direct link to your website.

[0] https://www.treehugger.com/land-contiguous-us-used-feed-live....

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by whats_a_quasar »

shafyy wrote: post #20
blondie9x wrote: post #3

@asmertgen thoughts on this research https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-sca... ?

This is a very good article. I place lab-grown in the same mind bucket as carbon capturing. Both are futuristic technologies that don't exist today (not really) but get a lot of media hype. For both, there's a much easier solution that exists today (e.g, switching to renewable energies, switching to plant-based meats) that are great and are also gaining a lot of traction. With both tech, it's unclear if they will eve…

For carbon capture, I don't think its the case that equivalent technology exists today. On our current trajectory the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is going to keep going up for the next 10-20 years, regardless of how fast renewable energy is deployed. And to be in the best position to stop and reverse CO2 levels we need to start developing carbon capture today, for it to be ready to deploy at scale in a decade or two.

I get the risk of giving people permission not to change behavior, but I don't think we actually see that happening today. Tesla sells every car it produces, and more and more governments and companies are making meaningful climate commitments and starting to follow through on them.

To address climate change we need all hands on deck, and that means exploring every possible approach to the problem. We can walk and chew gum at the same time, and don't need to write off technologies when they are in their infancy.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by shafyy »

Nathanael_M wrote: post #74
shafyy wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say we need to ask people to change their behavior. I know that that's futile. My point is that great alternatives already exist, that don't demand a behavior change. For example, renewable energies and plant-based meats (Impossible and others).

These both demand behaviour changes. Using renewable energy is a behaviour change (although no one's running their own oil refinery in their backyard) even if it's at a different tier and eating plant based meats is CERTAINLY a behaviour change. I think asking everyone to start eating mediocre faux-ground-beef is a pretty big behaviour change.

Following that logic, eating lab-grown meat will is also a behavior change. So, my point still stands.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by shafyy »

coldpie wrote: post #39
shafyy wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say we need to ask people to change their behavior. I know that that's futile. My point is that great alternatives already exist, that don't demand a behavior change. For example, renewable energies and plant-based meats (Impossible and others).

You did, though, it's right in your comment: "excuse to not change their behavior today." And no, plant-based meat isn't there yet. It's something I often choose myself for environmental reasons, but it's still strictly worse than real beef. And non-ground meat substitutes aren't even in the ballpark.

I'd bet you a lot of money that most people can't make out an Impossible burger vs. a beef burger in a blind taste. Tasting has to do a lot with psychology (see Pepsi vs. Coke blind tastes), and that's why people think plant-based meat sucks (there's a big variance in quality, agreed). Lab-grown meat won't change this fact.

Re: Launch HN: Micro Meat (YC S21) – Technology for scaling cultivated meat

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Post by jallen_dot_dev »

ReadEvalPost wrote: post #79

Harm is done to the ecosystem when we concentrate cows in one place and feed them chemically fortified slurry. When cows are allowed to graze pastures, they instead have a positive effect on the local ecosystem. As such, I am extremely skeptical that the right way forward is to reduce and concentrate the essence of a cow into bioreactors and feed them chemically fortified slurry.

I don't think bioreactors produce giant lakes of shit[1], so from an ecological standpoint this will be an absolute win.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayGJ1YSfDXs&t=36s

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