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Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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post #16

So those aren't a third sex, it's individuals with both male and female reproductive cells.

Sounds like a third sex

I think it depends on how you define sex, or perhaps even gender would be more accurate?

In any case, I think what's being proposed is there are still on 2 unique sexes.

- some of the species have one - some of the species have the other - some have the ability of both.

Technically, yes, that's still only two.

Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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"each sex can enter fertile pairings with 22,960 others" Imagine its Tinder profile :)

Tinder is not necessarily about "fertile pairings" though, but I guess humans (and some monkeys) are pretty unique in nature in that regard :)

Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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post #23

"each sex can enter fertile pairings with 22,960 others" Imagine its Tinder profile :)

Tinder is not necessarily about "fertile pairings" though, but I guess humans (and some monkeys) are pretty unique in nature in that regard :)

It's almost entirely about secondary sex characteristics and those exist exclusively to find fertile mates. Gay people still look at their potential partners secondary sex characteristics when deciding to mate with them. It's sort of a distinction without a difference situation.

Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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post #4

Schizophyllum commune, known as the splitgill mushroom, has over 23,000 sexes. Two individuals are sexually compatible based on genes at two sites in their genome. If a pair has matching genes at either location, the pair is not sexually compatible.

And it's still one species? Wild.

Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a third sex

I think it depends on how you define sex, or perhaps even gender would be more accurate? In any case, I think what's being proposed is there are still on 2 unique sexes. - some of the species have one - some of the species have the other - some have the ability of both. Technically, yes, that's still only two.

How do you define sex? Because what you just described sure sounds like a third sex to me.

Your description is premised on the assumption that there are only two sexes to begin with, and define the third sex in terms of the two sexes you assume to be the only ones that exist. Instead you could describe them as sexes A, B, and C where any of following pairings are valid for reproducing: A and B, A and C, B and C, or C and C.

Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any possibility that humans could be similar given that not every couple can have children naturally?

There is a massive difference. With that kind of mushroom one can expect that any random pair is very likely to match up. With humans you have tad less of 50% chance of being able to make kids with any random otherwise fertile human.

Err, that is an uncharitable reading of GP imo. If you pair males and females (rather than just "humans") then the anology holds quite well no?

Re: Algae with three sexes that mate in pairs identified in Japanese river (2021)

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post #4

Schizophyllum commune, known as the splitgill mushroom, has over 23,000 sexes. Two individuals are sexually compatible based on genes at two sites in their genome. If a pair has matching genes at either location, the pair is not sexually compatible.

Is there any possibility that humans could be similar given that not every couple can have children naturally?

How often is the inability to have children naturally dependent on direct compatibility, rather than the ability of one or both partners to have children at all, regardless of partner?
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