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Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by hkmaxpro »

waffleiron wrote: post #195
hkmaxpro wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know about the ads, but here are their state media reports: They peddle Russia’s claim that US has bioweapons in Ukraine: https://www.newsweek.com/china-peddles-russias-claim-that-us... And here’s CGTN’s article on “biolabs” in Ukraine, citing Russia media outlets and officials: https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254330.shtml Edit: As pointed out by a commenter, the above article is from GlobalTimes, not…

>They peddle Russia’s claim that US has bioweapons in Ukraine According to Newsweek, but the CGTN article actually doesn't use "bioweapons".

If you read the Newsweek article carefully, the bioweapon claim is from Igor Konashenkov.

CGTN only calls it “military biological program”. So technically not the same, but of course CGTN wants to give the same impression to keep spreading misinformation.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by waffleiron »

hkmaxpro wrote: post #201
waffleiron wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They peddle Russia’s claim that US has bioweapons in Ukraine According to Newsweek, but the CGTN article actually doesn't use "bioweapons".

If you read the Newsweek article carefully, the bioweapon claim is from Igor Konashenkov. CGTN only calls it “military biological program”. So technically not the same, but of course CGTN wants to give the same impression to keep spreading misinformation.

> the bioweapon claim is from Igor Konashenkov.

Yes, but this comment chain is about CGTN, so when switching let's keep it clear.

> course CGTN wants to give the same impression to keep spreading misinformation.

That's the least charitable interpretation, yes. However, I see no lies in their article.

edit:

You specifically said:

> They peddle Russia’s claim that US has bioweapons

They meaning CGTN.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by politician »

hkmaxpro wrote: post #42
waffleiron wrote: post #13

> Many of the ads, which are mostly clips of CGTN newscasts, sprinkle in pro-Russia, anti-NATO talking points and downplay Russia's actions in launching an unprovoked invasion of its neighbor. So what exactly did they say?

I don’t know about the ads, but here are their state media reports: They peddle Russia’s claim that US has bioweapons in Ukraine: https://www.newsweek.com/china-peddles-russias-claim-that-us... And here’s CGTN’s article on “biolabs” in Ukraine, citing Russia media outlets and officials: https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/1254330.shtml Edit: As pointed out by a commenter, the above article is from GlobalTimes, not…

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Wuhan.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by shagmin »

maratc wrote: post #115
hkmaxpro wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do your links [1][2] support the claim that Ukraine is developing “biomilitary activities” (as claimed in the title of the Global Times article)? They seem to point to medical research to fight against diseases, rather than “biomilitary activities”.

Genuine question: Why would the US Department of Defence fund "medical research to fight against diseases"?

The other comments already answer this question. But I'd like to add just how massive the DoD is. It's not like how one might imagine a typical military, where the government is basically funding an entity to pay soldiers' salaries, pay for their equipment, and basic necessities and not much else. The DoD on a macro level doesn't really skimp on anything, from research on how climate change will affect its mission to dealing with overwhelming quantities of rust.

Plus historically, there are plenty of wars where disease was more deadly than enemy combatants.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by coffeeblack »

throw10920 wrote: post #188
coffeeblack wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Criticizing the CCP has nothing to do with the Chinese people. You are not a racist against Americans when you criticize Biden or Trump.

I, personally, agree with your assessment of the post being a wumaodang, but I've been incorrect on that front before (and corrected by dang himself, who had done previous investigation into the account I was concerned about), and so in the spirit of the HN guidelines "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like." I think it might be best to elide that par…

Good point, you are right. Post updated.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by bagacrap »

axiosgunnar wrote: post #91

Why can China even buy ads on Facebook, a website they have banned? So they are allowed to push their narrative onto Westerners, but the inverse is not allowed?

Everything about the West's relationship with China is asymmetric.

I don't really blame China for realpolitik while trying to play catch up here, but I do wish they'd stop their expansionism. They already have enough people and resources to be the world #1 economy. Also the human rights violations are a bit of a mystery to me --- what's the point of a strong economy if people are suffering? Hopefully that will resolve itself in the same way the US used slave labor to bootstrap itself (unjustly, but it is what it is) then later banned it.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by z0r »

axiosgunnar wrote: post #91

Why can China even buy ads on Facebook, a website they have banned? So they are allowed to push their narrative onto Westerners, but the inverse is not allowed?

Because multinational corporations will take money from any buyer the law allows, so long as nobody is looking too closely at the moment

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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Post by pjerem »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #98
tablespoon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What's not to understand? Russia is doing the pre-production research of how China will need to protect their economy when they put their military in Taiwan. China will not get sanctioned like Russia has. The world's dependence on Chinese manufacturing is like Europe's dependence on Russian gas, times ten. Or, more precisely, it will get sanctioned like Russia has, but like the Russian sanctions, they will include…

> China will not get sanctioned like Russia has Nobody thought Russia would get sanctioned like Russia has.

Well, I read your comment, I look around me, I see no item that is not "Made in China".

There is no way China gets sanctioned for barely anything without years (decades ?) of re-industrialization of the west.

Well, at some point, I even think that China could make the entire west civilization collapse just by stopping their exportation.

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