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Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

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I don’t know why China is so keen on helping Russia. Is this some kind of godfather deal and they want some massive ROI from Russia once things settle down a bit? Or is this some long-term strategy “against the West”?

I think both are possible - but if they continue destabilizing the West, who’s gonna be buying their shoddily made consumer crap?

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

#14

I don’t know why China is so keen on helping Russia. Is this some kind of godfather deal and they want some massive ROI from Russia once things settle down a bit? Or is this some long-term strategy “against the West”?

It's win-win for them, no? A weak Russia isolated from the west means cheap resources for China. And the West focusing on the conflict and spending resources in Europe draws attention away from China in Asia. Seems like it's their interest to keep both parties in a drawn out conflict.

Though perhaps they have to balance it with how it affects the world economy.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

#15

I don’t know why China is so keen on helping Russia. Is this some kind of godfather deal and they want some massive ROI from Russia once things settle down a bit? Or is this some long-term strategy “against the West”?

A weakened Russia is the best thing that can happen for China and India if they get Russia to completely cut from the west. Russia and the vast amount of natural resources are at their disposal at a really low prize.

But buying ads to push their narrative does not make Russia weaker. Not doing anything does

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

#17

I don’t know why China is so keen on helping Russia. Is this some kind of godfather deal and they want some massive ROI from Russia once things settle down a bit? Or is this some long-term strategy “against the West”?

Russia has nowhere else to go now that western markets are closed to them. China will be able to buy natural gas and oil nearly at cost because nobody else is willing to buy them, and gets to dictate the prices it's willing to pay. It also gets a large market for the products of its industry with close to zero competition.

At least that's the general feeling among Russian economists whom I've been reading lately.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

#18

I don’t know why China is so keen on helping Russia. Is this some kind of godfather deal and they want some massive ROI from Russia once things settle down a bit? Or is this some long-term strategy “against the West”?

China and Russia have been classically opposed and clashing forces since the 1800s, even under dual-communist regimes. It was so bad in the 1960s that the Soviets wanted to engage in pre-emptive nuclear war with China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split

Making Russia completely dependent on China economically will put a leash on Russia, effectively establishing it as a Chinese protectorate much like the Li–Lobanov Treaty made China a Russian protectorate.

Re: China's state media buys Meta ads pushing Russia's line on war

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A weakened Russia is the best thing that can happen for China and India if they get Russia to completely cut from the west. Russia and the vast amount of natural resources are at their disposal at a really low prize.

But buying ads to push their narrative does not make Russia weaker. Not doing anything does

But it does create a divide in our politics and with elections coming up we may see some support for Russia from one or more politicians.
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