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The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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I tried being a Twitter user for a bit last year, mostly because a lot of engineers I admire use it to communicate about interesting topics and also their work. But after a while, I realized even they will pollute my feed with politically divisive topics, whether it be from them retweeting something, or liking a tweet, or even entering into the fray themselves -- Twitter will find a way to get me to see it. For a whi…

One of my pet theories for why social media is such a cesspool is that it exposes us to the whole of someone else. If I play boardgames with Sue, that's enough. We meet, enjoy a beer and play some Catan and go our separate ways. That's a fine relationship. If I follow Sue on social media, now I know her politics, religion, sex life, drug usage, opinions on every little thing.. and frankly, I don't care or want to. I'…

This is actually an excellent explanation that I’d never thought through before. Totally makes sense. Rarely would you see “the whole” of your whole Dunbar group + a few hundred more — so makes sense why it could turn into such a cesspool. Really interesting idea.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Silent majority....of what, Axios? Twitter users? Article never says. > 75% of people in the U.S. never tweet. The above is also a link in the article, which if you follow it, it states > roughly seven-in-ten Americans say they ever use any kind of social media site How many people over 12 in the US actually even have a Twitter account? I doubt it's even 15%. According to the source the article linked to, about 70% u…

> > roughly seven-in-ten Americans say they ever use any kind of social media site

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> According to the source the article linked to, about 70% use NO social media.

I think you misread. It says "ever use," not "never use." So 70% do use social media.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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One of my pet theories for why social media is such a cesspool is that it exposes us to the whole of someone else. If I play boardgames with Sue, that's enough. We meet, enjoy a beer and play some Catan and go our separate ways. That's a fine relationship. If I follow Sue on social media, now I know her politics, religion, sex life, drug usage, opinions on every little thing.. and frankly, I don't care or want to. I'…

> Humanity either needs to "agree to disagree" on wide swaths of things we care a whole bunch about (abortion, firearms, lgbtq, etc) or we need to go back to not discussing those things in public or polite company. Two out of three of those aren't just random positions. If you believe someone else is literally advocating for murdering children, I can see why you would judge them. Similarly, if you see people oppressi…

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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I tried being a Twitter user for a bit last year, mostly because a lot of engineers I admire use it to communicate about interesting topics and also their work. But after a while, I realized even they will pollute my feed with politically divisive topics, whether it be from them retweeting something, or liking a tweet, or even entering into the fray themselves -- Twitter will find a way to get me to see it. For a whi…

Blocking the source (not those retweeting) does work, it simply takes quite awhile to see results.

Ultimately most of the outrage/cancel culture/ and other political tribalism tweets originate from a relatively small fraction of users. I’ve blocked thousands of users over the last few years and it’s working out great. It almost feels like the old days of using Twitter. :)

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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The problem with Twitter is simple. If someone agrees with a post, they “like” it. If someone disagrees, they tweet in response. This was the ONLY option until a few weeks ago with the rollout of the downvote button, so we will see if downvoting changes this dynamic. Suppose a tweet gets 90 likes, and 10 negative responses. That’s 90% positive response. But if someone clicks on the tweet, they’ll see the one original…

I agree. This is an astute observation, and I think it applies to any online discussion system.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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I tried being a Twitter user for a bit last year, mostly because a lot of engineers I admire use it to communicate about interesting topics and also their work. But after a while, I realized even they will pollute my feed with politically divisive topics, whether it be from them retweeting something, or liking a tweet, or even entering into the fray themselves -- Twitter will find a way to get me to see it. For a whi…

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Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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Fun fact, this theory actually comes from a 4chan post.

Here's the original 4chan post post https://old.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/5ofih3/beforeafter_t...

> linking a rebbit post of a 4chan thread on HN

What a time to be alive

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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post #586

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I think it's blurry. Morals and values are very much at the heart of politics. It's what drives engagement & wins votes. One side views abortion as a moral sin. The other thinks that access to healthcare is a value and have a moral obligation to fight for the rights of women. There are a bunch of issues like that. For me right now my LGBTQ community is being used by Republicans as an election issue. An example where…

> One side views abortion as a moral sin. The other thinks that access to healthcare is a value and have a moral obligation to fight for the rights of women. How about all the people who view abortion as a sin but think it should be legal anyway? You know, like Joe Biden and every other liberal Catholic. You're just spitting out talking points.

Sure. Again politics is blurry, messy, blurry. True dichotomy is rare.

But even that example still mixes morals, values, & politics. Joe Biden values legal autonomy & access.

And it is a fundamental campaign issue. He would not win the Dem primary if he was against abortion. You can't un mix the two it's blurred.

Re: The new silent majority: People who don't tweet

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One of my pet theories for why social media is such a cesspool is that it exposes us to the whole of someone else. If I play boardgames with Sue, that's enough. We meet, enjoy a beer and play some Catan and go our separate ways. That's a fine relationship. If I follow Sue on social media, now I know her politics, religion, sex life, drug usage, opinions on every little thing.. and frankly, I don't care or want to. I'…

My favorite theory comes from an HN comment describing it as the "toaster fucker problem." I'd attempt to re-explain it, but the original comment is great (and easy to search for. Not many mentions of the phrase "toaster fucker" on HN.) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25667362

A brilliant comment indeed.
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